1 00:00:05,587 --> 00:00:07,487 In criminal justice system 2 00:00:07,488 --> 00:00:10,857 sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. 3 00:00:10,858 --> 00:00:12,793 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 4 00:00:12,794 --> 00:00:15,429 who investigate these vicious felonies 5 00:00:15,430 --> 00:00:17,297 are members of an elite squad 6 00:00:17,298 --> 00:00:18,865 known as the special victims unit. 7 00:00:18,866 --> 00:00:20,601 These are their stories. 8 00:00:24,271 --> 00:00:27,206 - Run! Run! - I'm coming! 9 00:00:30,411 --> 00:00:32,845 - Hurry up! He's gonna catch us! 10 00:00:32,846 --> 00:00:34,906 - I'm running as fast as I can! 11 00:00:34,907 --> 00:00:37,150 Watch out! 12 00:00:37,151 --> 00:00:39,043 What's happening? Is he close? 13 00:00:39,044 --> 00:00:41,604 - Yeah, and he's about to plant his pirate flag. 14 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:45,158 - I'm leaving a treasure chest two blocks away 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,418 to distract the bastard. 16 00:00:47,419 --> 00:00:49,529 - Look out! 17 00:00:49,530 --> 00:00:51,631 Lily! Are you okay? 18 00:00:51,632 --> 00:00:54,701 - What idiot left their luggage here? 19 00:00:54,702 --> 00:00:57,754 - Maybe there's something cool inside. 20 00:00:59,707 --> 00:01:02,600 Oh, my God. 21 00:01:02,601 --> 00:01:05,170 - The girls that found it were playing an online game? 22 00:01:05,171 --> 00:01:07,714 - Yeah, like plant the flag, but with virtual pirates. 23 00:01:07,715 --> 00:01:09,382 The rolling bag was on the sidewalk 24 00:01:09,383 --> 00:01:10,775 in front of the church. 25 00:01:10,776 --> 00:01:12,143 - We sure it's our victim? 26 00:01:12,144 --> 00:01:14,279 - I only saw her hand, but it's gotta be marnie. 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,848 No other kids were reported missing. 28 00:01:16,849 --> 00:01:18,191 - How long she been dead? 29 00:01:18,192 --> 00:01:20,393 - Hard to say. Just going into rigor. 30 00:01:20,394 --> 00:01:22,562 But the cold weather would've slowed down decomp. 31 00:01:22,563 --> 00:01:25,298 - Better make sure. 32 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:31,070 It's marnie. 33 00:01:31,071 --> 00:01:32,488 - Okay, let's get her out of here. 34 00:01:33,907 --> 00:01:35,709 - Please, no, no. Please! Please! 35 00:01:35,710 --> 00:01:38,077 Is that her? Is that my baby? 36 00:01:38,078 --> 00:01:39,371 - Whoa, whoa. Ma'am, ma'am. 37 00:01:39,372 --> 00:01:41,439 You shouldn't be here. - Detective tutuola. 38 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,977 No, no, no! 39 00:01:45,978 --> 00:01:47,754 Oh, don't say it, please. 40 00:01:49,715 --> 00:01:52,116 - I'm sorry. 41 00:01:52,117 --> 00:01:55,094 I'm sorry, Susan. 42 00:01:57,348 --> 00:01:59,298 - Oh, please! 43 00:02:00,701 --> 00:02:03,636 Adriano_csi www.Addic7ed.Com 44 00:02:45,816 --> 00:02:49,516 yesterday afternoon, 10 years old, marnie foster 45 00:02:49,517 --> 00:02:52,244 disappeared on her way home from school. 46 00:02:52,245 --> 00:02:54,622 We're very sorry to report, but the girl's remains 47 00:02:54,623 --> 00:02:56,157 were located a short time ago, 48 00:02:56,158 --> 00:02:58,526 and a homicide investigation is underway. 49 00:02:58,527 --> 00:03:00,219 Anyone with information, 50 00:03:00,220 --> 00:03:02,196 please call the special victims unit 51 00:03:02,197 --> 00:03:05,499 at the number on your screen. 52 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:08,335 555-0174. 53 00:03:08,336 --> 00:03:10,003 Thank you. - Thanks, detective. 54 00:03:10,004 --> 00:03:11,230 So there you have it... 55 00:03:11,231 --> 00:03:12,773 - How'd you make out in there? 56 00:03:12,774 --> 00:03:14,208 The priest gave us full access 57 00:03:14,209 --> 00:03:16,510 to the entire church. There's no crime scene. 58 00:03:16,511 --> 00:03:17,611 - Somebody had to see 59 00:03:17,612 --> 00:03:19,071 who dropped that duffle on the street. 60 00:03:19,072 --> 00:03:21,515 - Patrol's canvassing three blocks in every direction. 61 00:03:21,516 --> 00:03:23,584 - May have a break. - What, surveillance? 62 00:03:23,585 --> 00:03:25,744 - Parks department. 63 00:03:25,745 --> 00:03:27,079 They got a camera, bird's-eye view of the church. 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,715 They sent me their video. - Benson. 65 00:03:29,716 --> 00:03:32,059 - There's the duffle. 2:04 pm. 66 00:03:32,060 --> 00:03:34,828 - Well, roll it back, we'll see who dropped it. 67 00:03:38,082 --> 00:03:40,867 - Damn it, move the truck. 68 00:03:43,004 --> 00:03:45,005 There you go. No duffle. 69 00:03:45,006 --> 00:03:46,473 12:48 pm. 70 00:03:46,474 --> 00:03:48,467 - Anything? - Well, it looks like our perp 71 00:03:48,468 --> 00:03:50,903 dumped marnie between 1:45 and 2:00. 72 00:03:50,904 --> 00:03:53,147 - But the truck blocks, so you can't see who. 73 00:03:53,148 --> 00:03:54,748 I'll track down the drivers. If we're lucky, 74 00:03:54,749 --> 00:03:57,109 one of them saw our guy. - Warner called. 75 00:03:57,110 --> 00:04:00,112 She wants us to meet her and huang at the morgue. 76 00:04:00,113 --> 00:04:01,388 - No doubt about it, 77 00:04:01,389 --> 00:04:04,491 your killer is a sexual predator. 78 00:04:04,492 --> 00:04:06,093 - Marnie was raped? 79 00:04:06,094 --> 00:04:07,653 - Freshly torn hymen, 80 00:04:07,654 --> 00:04:09,763 blood present in the vaginal canal. 81 00:04:09,764 --> 00:04:11,632 - Tell me the son of a bitch left his DNA. 82 00:04:11,633 --> 00:04:14,668 - I wish. No fluids, hairs, or skin cells. 83 00:04:14,669 --> 00:04:16,270 And no signs of lubricant. 84 00:04:16,271 --> 00:04:18,572 He must've used some kind of foreign object, 85 00:04:18,573 --> 00:04:20,274 and it had to be something smooth. 86 00:04:20,275 --> 00:04:22,142 - So the pervert couldn't rise to the occasion, 87 00:04:22,143 --> 00:04:23,344 he has to sodomize her. 88 00:04:23,345 --> 00:04:25,779 - Cause of death? - Traumatic asphyxia. 89 00:04:25,780 --> 00:04:27,581 Found petechiae in the conjuctiva, 90 00:04:27,582 --> 00:04:29,883 and cotton and polyester fibers 91 00:04:29,884 --> 00:04:31,952 in her lungs and airways. She was suffocated. 92 00:04:31,953 --> 00:04:33,312 - With what? 93 00:04:33,313 --> 00:04:37,057 - The pillow her head was resting on. 94 00:04:37,058 --> 00:04:39,852 - Dr. Jackson. - Elliot, Olivia. 95 00:04:39,853 --> 00:04:41,495 - Cap, what are you doing here? 96 00:04:41,496 --> 00:04:43,664 - Covering for huang. - George was kind enough 97 00:04:43,665 --> 00:04:46,433 to give me some consulting work with the FBI 98 00:04:46,434 --> 00:04:48,502 when my clinic folded. 99 00:04:48,503 --> 00:04:50,504 He's presenting at a conference down in Washington 100 00:04:50,505 --> 00:04:51,538 and asked me to fill in. 101 00:04:51,539 --> 00:04:53,874 - So what are we looking at? 102 00:04:53,875 --> 00:04:56,610 - Someone who made sure marnie was resting comfortably 103 00:04:56,611 --> 00:04:58,195 before he abandoned her. 104 00:04:58,196 --> 00:04:59,780 - He wrapped her in silk sheets. 105 00:04:59,781 --> 00:05:01,081 - Padded the bottom with one, 106 00:05:01,082 --> 00:05:03,242 tucked her in with the other. 107 00:05:03,243 --> 00:05:05,369 Along with this. 108 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:06,820 - That doll looks like marnie. 109 00:05:06,821 --> 00:05:08,088 - He may be preying on girls 110 00:05:08,089 --> 00:05:10,215 who fit his ideal fantasy. 111 00:05:10,216 --> 00:05:11,884 - It's already been swabbed for DNA 112 00:05:11,885 --> 00:05:13,594 and sent over to the lab. 113 00:05:13,595 --> 00:05:16,297 - Silk sheets, pillow, doll... 114 00:05:16,298 --> 00:05:17,731 Some pedophiles will go to any lengths 115 00:05:17,732 --> 00:05:19,066 to lure little girls. 116 00:05:19,067 --> 00:05:20,859 - This one didn't want marnie to feel pain. 117 00:05:20,860 --> 00:05:23,037 Her stomach was full of milk and zolpidem. 118 00:05:23,038 --> 00:05:24,104 - Sleeping pills, 119 00:05:24,105 --> 00:05:26,398 so she wouldn't feel him smothering her. 120 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:28,142 And then he drops her off at the church 121 00:05:28,143 --> 00:05:29,543 so he can atone for his crime. 122 00:05:29,544 --> 00:05:32,246 - Pillow, silk sheets, and a doll. 123 00:05:32,247 --> 00:05:36,075 His way of showering her with love. 124 00:05:36,076 --> 00:05:37,885 He may have resorted to murder 125 00:05:37,886 --> 00:05:39,578 in an attempt not to get caught. 126 00:05:39,579 --> 00:05:41,255 - Or getting caught again and going back to prison. 127 00:05:41,256 --> 00:05:43,490 - So...What now? 128 00:05:43,491 --> 00:05:44,958 You round up the usual suspects? 129 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:46,827 - Exactly. Every registered sex offender 130 00:05:46,828 --> 00:05:50,589 who ever so much as looked the wrong way at a little girl. 131 00:05:50,590 --> 00:05:52,800 - Cap, we might need a hand in this. 132 00:05:52,801 --> 00:05:54,768 - Anything I can do to help. 133 00:05:54,769 --> 00:05:57,271 - At least huang's an FBI agent, 134 00:05:57,272 --> 00:05:58,372 cap's never done this. 135 00:05:58,373 --> 00:05:59,598 - I know, but I got a feeling 136 00:05:59,599 --> 00:06:02,134 he'll bring something to the table. 137 00:06:02,135 --> 00:06:03,402 - All I did was brush against her, 138 00:06:03,403 --> 00:06:04,845 she starts screaming I groped. 139 00:06:04,846 --> 00:06:06,980 - That's old news, Craig. Where were you yesterday? 140 00:06:06,981 --> 00:06:09,408 - Having a camera shoved up my ass. 141 00:06:09,409 --> 00:06:11,351 Colonoscopy. Wanna see the pictures? 142 00:06:11,352 --> 00:06:12,744 - A letter from your doctor will do. 143 00:06:12,745 --> 00:06:14,546 - Constitution says I'm entitled to life, 144 00:06:14,547 --> 00:06:16,415 liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 145 00:06:16,416 --> 00:06:19,526 - That doesn't include pursuing pre-teen girls. 146 00:06:19,527 --> 00:06:22,096 Can anybody account for your whereabouts yesterday? 147 00:06:22,097 --> 00:06:23,155 - My dear old mother. 148 00:06:23,156 --> 00:06:24,456 I was visiting her out in Jersey. 149 00:06:24,457 --> 00:06:26,291 - You have to come better than that, Shane. 150 00:06:26,292 --> 00:06:28,201 - I got the train ticket to prove it. 151 00:06:28,202 --> 00:06:30,662 - I was at work. Ask any of my students. 152 00:06:30,663 --> 00:06:32,206 - Students? 153 00:06:32,207 --> 00:06:33,932 You were caught feeling up a ten-year-old. 154 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:35,309 - But I wasn't convicted. 155 00:06:35,310 --> 00:06:37,469 - Still, I'm pretty shocked that Hudson university 156 00:06:37,470 --> 00:06:39,580 didn't fire you. - They can't. 157 00:06:39,581 --> 00:06:41,006 I have tenure. 158 00:06:43,384 --> 00:06:44,943 - Just letting them all go? 159 00:06:44,944 --> 00:06:46,453 - They all have alibis. 160 00:06:46,454 --> 00:06:49,247 Welcome to the perv parade that leads to nowhere. 161 00:06:49,248 --> 00:06:52,025 Any progress on the doll? 162 00:06:52,026 --> 00:06:54,227 - Yeah, the name is perfect penny. 163 00:06:54,228 --> 00:06:56,830 Manufacturer stopped making it in 1989. 164 00:06:56,831 --> 00:06:58,757 It hasn't been on store shelves in over 20 years. 165 00:06:58,758 --> 00:07:01,426 - And it wasn't marnie's, according to her mother. 166 00:07:01,427 --> 00:07:03,070 - Where's marnie's father? 167 00:07:03,071 --> 00:07:04,830 - On his way back from h Honolulu, 168 00:07:04,831 --> 00:07:06,998 but he left before marnie disappeared. 169 00:07:06,999 --> 00:07:08,709 - He wasn't here to dump that duffle. 170 00:07:08,710 --> 00:07:11,278 - Doesn't mean he didn't abuse her. 171 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:12,846 Some pedophiles work in pairs. 172 00:07:12,847 --> 00:07:15,615 - Let's go welcome dad home. 173 00:07:17,819 --> 00:07:18,986 - Just tell me why not? 174 00:07:18,987 --> 00:07:20,312 Just... 175 00:07:20,313 --> 00:07:22,548 - Doesn't look like a very happy homecoming. 176 00:07:25,260 --> 00:07:27,544 Did he just shove her? - Foster, police! 177 00:07:29,547 --> 00:07:31,056 - Hey, Susan, you all right? - Yeah. 178 00:07:31,057 --> 00:07:32,799 - You didn't hear me? - Name's not foster! 179 00:07:33,851 --> 00:07:35,260 - What is your name, douche bag? 180 00:07:35,261 --> 00:07:37,596 - Chet hadler. What'd I do? 181 00:07:37,597 --> 00:07:40,407 - Assault. - I didn't touch you, man. 182 00:07:40,408 --> 00:07:43,376 - You just shoved a dead girl's mother. 183 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:47,347 - Susan is my girlfriend. 184 00:07:47,348 --> 00:07:49,416 - For real or in your dreams, Chester? 185 00:07:49,417 --> 00:07:50,951 - She was gonna leave her husband 186 00:07:50,952 --> 00:07:52,719 and bring marnie to live with me. 187 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,321 - What, so you could push them both around? 188 00:07:54,322 --> 00:07:56,047 Or did you jump the gun and push marnie 189 00:07:56,048 --> 00:07:58,258 into doing something that you had to kill her for? 190 00:07:58,259 --> 00:08:01,094 - I never touched the kid. 191 00:08:01,095 --> 00:08:04,131 - He's telling the truth. 192 00:08:04,132 --> 00:08:05,332 Chet was there for me 193 00:08:05,333 --> 00:08:07,034 when Michael and I were having problems. 194 00:08:07,035 --> 00:08:09,570 - Does your husband know about him? 195 00:08:09,571 --> 00:08:11,071 - I confessed. Two months ago. 196 00:08:11,072 --> 00:08:13,173 I told Chet we had to stop seeing each other. 197 00:08:13,174 --> 00:08:16,410 But... 198 00:08:16,411 --> 00:08:17,978 He won't take no for an answer. 199 00:08:17,979 --> 00:08:19,513 He says we're meant for each other. 200 00:08:19,514 --> 00:08:21,081 - He tell you about his police record? 201 00:08:21,082 --> 00:08:23,817 - Chet was arrested? 202 00:08:23,818 --> 00:08:25,052 For what? 203 00:08:25,053 --> 00:08:27,421 - You forcibly touched a 13-year-old girl... 204 00:08:27,422 --> 00:08:29,456 your last girlfriend's kid. 205 00:08:29,457 --> 00:08:32,292 - It was that little bitch's idea. 206 00:08:32,293 --> 00:08:34,828 - That little bitch told me you wanted a threesome. 207 00:08:34,829 --> 00:08:36,997 You try that with Susan and marnie too? 208 00:08:36,998 --> 00:08:38,532 - A threesome? 209 00:08:38,533 --> 00:08:39,733 My daughter is dead, 210 00:08:39,734 --> 00:08:42,202 how can you accuse me of doing that? 211 00:08:42,203 --> 00:08:44,004 - Because you lied about where you were 212 00:08:44,005 --> 00:08:46,039 when marnie disappeared. - I was at work. 213 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,941 - Well your boss says different. 214 00:08:47,942 --> 00:08:50,911 He says that you left after lunch. 215 00:08:56,584 --> 00:08:59,519 Chet and I checked into the Amsterdam hotel at 1:30. 216 00:09:01,923 --> 00:09:04,892 We were... 217 00:09:04,893 --> 00:09:08,728 We were in bed when my baby disappeared. 218 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:14,234 - Great. She's getting laid 219 00:09:14,235 --> 00:09:16,670 while her daughter's raped and murdered. 220 00:09:16,671 --> 00:09:18,772 Glad I don't have to explain that to marnie's father. 221 00:09:18,773 --> 00:09:20,399 - Fin interviewed him when he got home, 222 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,775 he's in utter shock. There's no way 223 00:09:21,776 --> 00:09:22,834 he had anything to do with this. 224 00:09:22,835 --> 00:09:25,971 - So we got a dead girl, no suspects. 225 00:09:25,972 --> 00:09:27,472 - Maybe because we haven't considered 226 00:09:27,473 --> 00:09:29,408 all the possibilities. 227 00:09:29,409 --> 00:09:31,285 - Okay, like? 228 00:09:31,286 --> 00:09:33,954 - That our perpetrator's a woman. 229 00:09:33,955 --> 00:09:36,681 - A woman? Who kills and rapes? 230 00:09:36,682 --> 00:09:39,560 - It's very rare, but it's not unheard of. 231 00:09:39,561 --> 00:09:42,095 Our perp made sure that marnie was asleep 232 00:09:42,096 --> 00:09:43,730 before she was killed, 233 00:09:43,731 --> 00:09:46,633 then wrapped her in a pink silk sheet 234 00:09:46,634 --> 00:09:49,169 and laid her on another that was carefully folded, 235 00:09:49,170 --> 00:09:52,506 put her head on a lavender pillow with a doll. 236 00:09:52,507 --> 00:09:54,541 - Everything that a male perv would've done 237 00:09:54,542 --> 00:09:56,543 to convince a small girl like marnie 238 00:09:56,544 --> 00:09:58,378 that he was to be loved and trusted. 239 00:09:58,379 --> 00:09:59,479 - Except there was no DNA 240 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,248 and no sign of penile penetration. 241 00:10:01,249 --> 00:10:02,382 - And you heard Warner, 242 00:10:02,383 --> 00:10:03,942 that he could've used a foreign object. 243 00:10:03,943 --> 00:10:07,454 - Or she could have. 244 00:10:07,455 --> 00:10:08,855 Olivia, did you sleep with a doll 245 00:10:08,856 --> 00:10:11,491 when you were a child? - Sure. 246 00:10:11,492 --> 00:10:14,194 - Can you remember why? 247 00:10:14,195 --> 00:10:16,096 - Because it made me feel safe. 248 00:10:16,097 --> 00:10:17,522 - Right. - However, 249 00:10:17,523 --> 00:10:19,366 in all of our years at svu, 250 00:10:19,367 --> 00:10:21,668 how many female-on-female molesters have we collared? 251 00:10:21,669 --> 00:10:23,270 - I can count them on both hands. 252 00:10:23,271 --> 00:10:24,671 And we have never arrested a woman 253 00:10:24,672 --> 00:10:27,007 for sodomizing and murdering a girl solo. 254 00:10:27,008 --> 00:10:29,109 - Yeah, but just consider this. 255 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:31,036 A man would've left marnie in front of a church 256 00:10:31,037 --> 00:10:32,771 in order to atone for his sin, 257 00:10:32,772 --> 00:10:35,616 but our perp might've left her there... 258 00:10:35,617 --> 00:10:38,919 - to make sure that she was safe in the hands of God. 259 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,421 - Right. 260 00:10:44,825 --> 00:10:48,295 Hard as it is to believe, 261 00:10:48,296 --> 00:10:50,497 I think our killer's a woman. 262 00:10:59,570 --> 00:11:01,105 Thank you. 263 00:11:02,056 --> 00:11:03,131 Something I should've said 264 00:11:03,132 --> 00:11:04,532 when you sent those beautiful flowers 265 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:07,068 to my daughter's funeral. 266 00:11:07,069 --> 00:11:09,704 - We were so sorry to hear that Ann had passed. 267 00:11:09,705 --> 00:11:12,565 - Yeah. 268 00:11:14,885 --> 00:11:16,653 - So... 269 00:11:16,654 --> 00:11:19,389 Any plans to reopen your clinic? 270 00:11:19,390 --> 00:11:21,057 - Haven't you heard? 271 00:11:21,058 --> 00:11:23,326 I'm a charlatan. 272 00:11:23,327 --> 00:11:25,395 All my peers can see is that I've violated 273 00:11:25,396 --> 00:11:27,564 the confidentiality of my patients. 274 00:11:27,565 --> 00:11:31,501 - You saved your patients from a killer. 275 00:11:31,502 --> 00:11:34,537 - I couldn't save my daughter, though. 276 00:11:34,538 --> 00:11:36,339 - Cap, you sure you're up for this? 277 00:11:39,977 --> 00:11:42,579 - You don't believe me, do you? 278 00:11:42,580 --> 00:11:46,149 You don't believe that a lone woman 279 00:11:46,150 --> 00:11:47,751 could've murdered this girl. 280 00:11:47,752 --> 00:11:49,686 - The few female molesters 281 00:11:49,687 --> 00:11:51,821 that we've seen who have killed 282 00:11:51,822 --> 00:11:53,323 have worked with a male accomplice. 283 00:11:53,324 --> 00:11:55,592 - And what about the women who've molested alone? 284 00:11:55,593 --> 00:11:59,287 - Mrs. Robinson types who seduce teenage boys. 285 00:11:59,288 --> 00:12:01,289 Most of them are teachers who say they're in love 286 00:12:01,290 --> 00:12:02,398 and they don't believe 287 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:04,167 that they're doing anything wrong. 288 00:12:04,168 --> 00:12:07,604 - But women who sexually abuse girls... 289 00:12:07,605 --> 00:12:09,172 They're different, Olivia. 290 00:12:09,173 --> 00:12:10,707 The few I've met, 291 00:12:10,708 --> 00:12:12,509 they're appalled by what they'd done. 292 00:12:12,510 --> 00:12:13,801 - But have you ever met one 293 00:12:13,802 --> 00:12:15,712 who's actually killed their victim? 294 00:12:15,713 --> 00:12:16,813 - I've met two. 295 00:12:16,814 --> 00:12:19,049 They both seemed entirely normal, 296 00:12:19,050 --> 00:12:20,917 but they were totally lacking in empathy. 297 00:12:20,918 --> 00:12:24,278 And they were later diagnosed as sociopaths. 298 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:27,323 But our killer's different. 299 00:12:27,324 --> 00:12:28,858 The way she treated marnie 300 00:12:28,859 --> 00:12:32,862 shows genuine feelings of tenderness. 301 00:12:32,863 --> 00:12:35,098 - Our perp was abused herself. 302 00:12:35,099 --> 00:12:37,792 - Yeah. 303 00:12:37,793 --> 00:12:40,470 I think the clue to her psyche 304 00:12:40,471 --> 00:12:43,940 is perfect penny. 305 00:12:43,941 --> 00:12:45,542 A totem for the innocence 306 00:12:45,543 --> 00:12:48,745 that she feels her abuser stole from her. 307 00:12:48,746 --> 00:12:50,413 She was targeted for the qualities 308 00:12:50,414 --> 00:12:52,715 the killer believes she herself had lost. 309 00:12:52,716 --> 00:12:55,351 Goodness, sweetness, innocence. 310 00:12:55,352 --> 00:12:58,321 - We have to talk to every woman in marnie's life. 311 00:13:01,592 --> 00:13:04,419 - I took care of marnie since she was a baby. 312 00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:06,521 I should've been here. 313 00:13:06,522 --> 00:13:07,897 - Where were you on Monday afternoon? 314 00:13:07,898 --> 00:13:09,032 - Visiting my mother. 315 00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:12,202 Señora foster gave me the week off. 316 00:13:12,203 --> 00:13:14,395 - Can you tell me where marnie may have gone 317 00:13:14,396 --> 00:13:16,172 the afternoon that she disappeared? 318 00:13:16,173 --> 00:13:18,307 - Monday after school 319 00:13:18,308 --> 00:13:20,743 is piano lessons. 320 00:13:20,744 --> 00:13:25,273 - I gave marnie lessons every Monday afternoon 321 00:13:25,274 --> 00:13:27,317 for almost two years. 322 00:13:27,318 --> 00:13:28,785 - But not this past Monday? 323 00:13:28,786 --> 00:13:32,589 - No, her mother called and cancelled. 324 00:13:32,590 --> 00:13:36,017 I was disappointed because... 325 00:13:36,018 --> 00:13:39,963 She showed such progress lately. 326 00:13:39,964 --> 00:13:43,166 - It's okay to grieve, Ms. frye. 327 00:13:43,167 --> 00:13:45,501 - She used to love poking around 328 00:13:45,502 --> 00:13:49,338 asking where all my old stuff came from. 329 00:13:49,339 --> 00:13:52,567 My parents died in a car accident when I was 17, 330 00:13:52,568 --> 00:13:55,378 and I haven't changed anything since. 331 00:13:55,379 --> 00:13:57,313 Look at her. 332 00:13:57,314 --> 00:13:59,282 It was perfect posture. 333 00:13:59,283 --> 00:14:01,484 Perfect weight transfer, 334 00:14:01,485 --> 00:14:05,555 perfect hand position. 335 00:14:05,556 --> 00:14:07,715 She had such natural talent. 336 00:14:07,716 --> 00:14:09,425 - Marnie wasn't just talented, 337 00:14:09,426 --> 00:14:12,362 she was a team player and a leader. 338 00:14:12,363 --> 00:14:15,423 - Sounds like you took a special interest in her. 339 00:14:15,424 --> 00:14:17,667 - The whole school did. - Did she ever mention 340 00:14:17,668 --> 00:14:21,838 anyone taking too much interest in her? 341 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:24,007 Bullying, perhaps? - As far as I know, 342 00:14:24,008 --> 00:14:26,342 marnie didn't have one enemy anywhere. 343 00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:27,877 - Same answer I got. 344 00:14:27,878 --> 00:14:30,180 And all marnie's female teachers have an alibi 345 00:14:30,181 --> 00:14:31,581 for when she disappeared. 346 00:14:31,582 --> 00:14:33,883 - Whoever we're looking for is way under the radar. 347 00:14:33,884 --> 00:14:35,418 - Well, she could well surface 348 00:14:35,419 --> 00:14:37,420 at marnie's funeral tomorrow. 349 00:14:37,421 --> 00:14:38,755 - And face her parents? 350 00:14:38,756 --> 00:14:41,524 - Oh, she'll do everything she can to avoid them. 351 00:14:41,525 --> 00:14:43,092 She probably believes in her heart 352 00:14:43,093 --> 00:14:44,952 that she loved marnie. 353 00:14:44,953 --> 00:14:46,854 She could well be mourning her 354 00:14:46,855 --> 00:14:50,525 as much as anyone. More, even. 355 00:15:06,283 --> 00:15:08,685 - Not to burst your bubble, but I didn't see anyone 356 00:15:08,686 --> 00:15:11,312 that didn't skip the receiving line. 357 00:15:11,313 --> 00:15:14,182 - She has to be here somewhere, I'm sure of it. 358 00:15:14,183 --> 00:15:15,816 - Fin, anything? 359 00:15:15,817 --> 00:15:17,385 - Just a bunch of heartbreak. 360 00:15:17,386 --> 00:15:18,853 - Liv, more of the same? 361 00:15:18,854 --> 00:15:21,631 - Pretty much. Nothing unusual here. 362 00:15:25,185 --> 00:15:28,137 Hold on, a woman bolting at your 2:00. 363 00:15:29,573 --> 00:15:31,499 June, right? 364 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:32,800 - Let me go. 365 00:15:32,801 --> 00:15:34,635 - I didn't see you in the church. 366 00:15:34,636 --> 00:15:36,179 - Yeah, well, I need to go home. 367 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:38,005 - Why don't we go talk someplace where it's warm? 368 00:15:38,006 --> 00:15:40,208 Let's go back in. - I don't wanna talk. 369 00:15:40,209 --> 00:15:41,242 - Hold on. - Please. 370 00:15:41,243 --> 00:15:43,411 - Hold on! 371 00:15:43,412 --> 00:15:45,021 - That's marnie's piano teacher. 372 00:15:45,022 --> 00:15:48,258 - Maybe a lot more. 373 00:15:48,259 --> 00:15:50,593 - June frye, 37. 374 00:15:50,594 --> 00:15:52,028 No police record, never been in trouble, 375 00:15:52,029 --> 00:15:53,196 never been married. 376 00:15:53,197 --> 00:15:55,098 She teaches piano out of a brownstone 377 00:15:55,099 --> 00:15:56,933 that she inherited from her parents. 378 00:15:56,934 --> 00:15:58,301 - Right around the corner from the church 379 00:15:58,302 --> 00:16:00,103 marnie was found in front of. 380 00:16:00,104 --> 00:16:02,029 - June told Olivia that marnie's mother called 381 00:16:02,030 --> 00:16:03,740 to cancel her piano lesson. 382 00:16:03,741 --> 00:16:06,601 - And marnie's mom just told me that that's a crock. 383 00:16:06,602 --> 00:16:09,712 She said June called her just after 2:00 384 00:16:09,713 --> 00:16:11,005 to say that it was cancelled. 385 00:16:11,006 --> 00:16:12,715 And that's not all. 386 00:16:12,716 --> 00:16:15,151 June's phone records show that she blew off 387 00:16:15,152 --> 00:16:17,687 a whole bunch of other students between 3:30 and 4:00. 388 00:16:17,688 --> 00:16:19,389 - But if June cancelled marnie's lesson, 389 00:16:19,390 --> 00:16:20,881 why did marnie turn up at June's house? 390 00:16:20,882 --> 00:16:22,350 - Marnie's mom called the school 391 00:16:22,351 --> 00:16:24,493 and asked the secretary to pass on the message. 392 00:16:24,494 --> 00:16:25,995 The secretary forgot. 393 00:16:25,996 --> 00:16:27,764 - So marnie thought she had a lesson. 394 00:16:27,765 --> 00:16:30,700 She shows up at June's, and June kills her? 395 00:16:30,701 --> 00:16:32,602 Why wait two years to act? 396 00:16:32,603 --> 00:16:34,904 - Oh, she would've been fighting her feelings. 397 00:16:34,905 --> 00:16:37,907 And they could've been beginning to overwhelm her, 398 00:16:37,908 --> 00:16:40,276 which is why she cancelled the lesson. 399 00:16:40,277 --> 00:16:42,345 Then marnie turns up unexpectedly 400 00:16:42,346 --> 00:16:43,512 and pushes her over the edge. 401 00:16:43,513 --> 00:16:44,747 - Well, if that's the case, 402 00:16:44,748 --> 00:16:46,349 then June's brownstone is our crime scene. 403 00:16:46,350 --> 00:16:47,550 We need a search warrant. 404 00:16:47,551 --> 00:16:49,819 - Well, guys, why don't we just ask June 405 00:16:49,820 --> 00:16:51,354 if we can look around her house? 406 00:16:51,355 --> 00:16:52,522 - First, she won't let us, 407 00:16:52,523 --> 00:16:53,956 and secondly, she'll destroy evidence 408 00:16:53,957 --> 00:16:55,325 if she thinks we're onto her. 409 00:16:55,326 --> 00:16:57,460 - But she knew that when Olivia looked her in the eyes 410 00:16:57,461 --> 00:17:00,429 this afternoon outside the church. 411 00:17:06,829 --> 00:17:10,340 ♪ ♪ 412 00:17:16,430 --> 00:17:17,505 - What do you want now? 413 00:17:17,506 --> 00:17:19,349 - We really need your help, June. 414 00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:22,310 - I can't. Please don't come here again. 415 00:17:22,311 --> 00:17:24,245 - Was that the etude no.3? 416 00:17:24,246 --> 00:17:27,757 You make it sound so easy. 417 00:17:27,758 --> 00:17:30,193 Whenever I play chopin, I always manage to butcher it. 418 00:17:30,194 --> 00:17:33,954 I'm Dr. Jackson. 419 00:17:33,955 --> 00:17:36,932 I'm helping the detectives on marnie's case. 420 00:17:38,769 --> 00:17:41,738 - It's too painful to talk about her. 421 00:17:41,739 --> 00:17:43,940 - Even if it could help lead us 422 00:17:43,941 --> 00:17:48,111 to the person who took marnie from us? 423 00:17:48,112 --> 00:17:51,581 Please. 424 00:17:51,582 --> 00:17:53,149 It'll only take a few minutes. 425 00:17:59,823 --> 00:18:02,591 It's a beautiful house, June. 426 00:18:04,361 --> 00:18:06,095 I wonder, would it be possible for us 427 00:18:06,096 --> 00:18:09,532 to have a cup of tea? 428 00:18:09,533 --> 00:18:10,825 - I'll put the water on. 429 00:18:10,826 --> 00:18:12,468 - Can I use the bathroom, please? 430 00:18:15,405 --> 00:18:17,740 - Yes. It's downstairs. 431 00:18:17,741 --> 00:18:19,809 - Thank you. 432 00:18:19,810 --> 00:18:22,745 Smooth talker. 433 00:18:22,746 --> 00:18:23,980 - Does that mean we can search? 434 00:18:23,981 --> 00:18:25,748 - Anything we see without opening 435 00:18:25,749 --> 00:18:27,683 a drawer or door is fair game. 436 00:18:27,684 --> 00:18:30,352 - I'll keep my eye on June. 437 00:18:37,210 --> 00:18:40,162 - "October, 1979." 438 00:18:41,398 --> 00:18:44,033 Cap... 439 00:18:44,034 --> 00:18:47,737 It's like time stopped in this house 30 years ago. 440 00:18:47,738 --> 00:18:49,397 - Something happened here 441 00:18:49,398 --> 00:18:52,274 which brought June's life to a screeching halt. 442 00:18:55,145 --> 00:18:57,613 Elliot, what's this? 443 00:18:57,614 --> 00:19:00,699 - Don't touch that. 444 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:07,848 It's fake. 445 00:19:07,849 --> 00:19:09,917 Looks like the hair on the doll that marnie was holding. 446 00:19:09,918 --> 00:19:11,218 - She's coming. 447 00:19:11,219 --> 00:19:14,196 - Downstairs. 448 00:19:21,388 --> 00:19:25,041 Same kind of pillows that were tucked under marnie's head. 449 00:19:25,042 --> 00:19:26,934 - You smell that? 450 00:19:26,935 --> 00:19:28,302 That's bleach. 451 00:19:28,303 --> 00:19:31,096 - June's been trying to clean up down here. 452 00:19:32,983 --> 00:19:35,901 - Well, this trash can's empty. 453 00:19:41,191 --> 00:19:45,252 - Because she already took out the garbage. 454 00:19:57,674 --> 00:19:59,942 - You play beautifully. 455 00:20:03,746 --> 00:20:06,815 - What are we looking for? 456 00:20:08,685 --> 00:20:10,586 - I don't know. 457 00:20:10,587 --> 00:20:13,656 This. 458 00:20:13,657 --> 00:20:14,891 - Are you sure that's June's? 459 00:20:14,892 --> 00:20:16,058 - It's the same luggage set 460 00:20:16,059 --> 00:20:18,978 as the duffle bag marnie was found in. 461 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,665 This must be what June used on marnie. 462 00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:27,403 Manhattan svu to central, 463 00:20:27,404 --> 00:20:30,373 rush a bus to 451 Hamilton terrace 464 00:20:30,374 --> 00:20:32,500 for cardiac arrest. 465 00:20:32,501 --> 00:20:34,010 - 10-4, Manhattan svu. Bus is on its way. 466 00:20:34,011 --> 00:20:35,244 - What happened? 467 00:20:35,245 --> 00:20:37,580 - She was playing, and she just collapsed. 468 00:20:39,616 --> 00:20:43,477 - She's not breathing. 469 00:20:46,114 --> 00:20:47,181 Come on, girl. 470 00:20:47,182 --> 00:20:48,691 - It's empty. 471 00:20:48,692 --> 00:20:50,885 - Zolpidem. It's what she fed marnie. 472 00:20:50,886 --> 00:20:52,386 She say anything? 473 00:20:52,387 --> 00:20:54,363 - "Tell marnie's parents I'm sorry." 474 00:21:05,728 --> 00:21:07,896 - Where am I? - Mercy hospital. 475 00:21:07,897 --> 00:21:10,199 Dr. Jackson saved your life. 476 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,434 - It's not worth saving. 477 00:21:12,435 --> 00:21:14,670 - You know, you'd feel better 478 00:21:14,671 --> 00:21:18,374 if you told us why you tried to kill yourself. 479 00:21:18,375 --> 00:21:20,909 - June, we found the suitcase that you threw out. 480 00:21:20,910 --> 00:21:23,145 It matches the duffle that marnie was found in. 481 00:21:23,146 --> 00:21:24,513 - There was a wooden spoon inside. 482 00:21:24,514 --> 00:21:26,306 - No, please. Please, please, please, stop. 483 00:21:26,307 --> 00:21:29,885 - The sleeping pills that you tried to kill yourself with 484 00:21:29,886 --> 00:21:32,054 are the same ones in marnie's stomach. 485 00:21:32,055 --> 00:21:34,481 And we found hair in your living room 486 00:21:34,482 --> 00:21:37,559 that matches the doll that was left with her. 487 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,529 - Leave me alone. - June... 488 00:21:43,082 --> 00:21:46,068 I know you love marnie. 489 00:21:46,069 --> 00:21:48,737 But give her parents some peace 490 00:21:48,738 --> 00:21:51,707 and tell us why you said you're sorry. 491 00:21:57,447 --> 00:21:59,848 - I will die... 492 00:21:59,849 --> 00:22:02,818 Before I talk about marnie. 493 00:22:05,988 --> 00:22:07,914 - The lab swabbed the suitcase and the spoon 494 00:22:07,915 --> 00:22:09,683 and came back with zip. 495 00:22:09,684 --> 00:22:11,918 The bleach June used destroyed any DNA. 496 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:13,228 - Do we have any evidence? 497 00:22:13,229 --> 00:22:15,164 - Csu dusted her house for marnie's prints, 498 00:22:15,165 --> 00:22:16,598 and found them upstairs. 499 00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:17,924 - Along with dozens of other kids 500 00:22:17,925 --> 00:22:20,761 who took piano lessons. - It has to be June. 501 00:22:20,762 --> 00:22:22,362 That suitcase is from the same set 502 00:22:22,363 --> 00:22:23,964 as the duffle we found marnie in. 503 00:22:23,965 --> 00:22:25,465 - The fake hair doesn't prove 504 00:22:25,466 --> 00:22:27,000 that the doll belonged to June. 505 00:22:27,001 --> 00:22:30,079 And without the DNA, the wooden spoon is useless. 506 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,047 - Face it, if June doesn't suddenly 507 00:22:32,048 --> 00:22:33,716 decide to give it up, we're screwed. 508 00:22:33,717 --> 00:22:34,917 - She's got a secret, 509 00:22:34,918 --> 00:22:36,852 we just gotta figure out how to unlock the door. 510 00:22:40,356 --> 00:22:42,658 - Me? 511 00:22:42,659 --> 00:22:44,126 - You're the sweet-talker here. 512 00:22:44,127 --> 00:22:47,095 It worked once, why not give it another shot? 513 00:22:58,157 --> 00:22:59,900 - I told you I wasn't gonna say anything. 514 00:22:59,901 --> 00:23:02,478 - I'm certainly not going to force you to. 515 00:23:02,479 --> 00:23:04,947 - You should've let me die. 516 00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:08,083 - So you'd see no more sunsets, 517 00:23:08,084 --> 00:23:12,054 or play no more of that music you love so much? 518 00:23:12,055 --> 00:23:14,923 - There's nothing for us to talk about. 519 00:23:14,924 --> 00:23:18,677 - Except why you tried to end your life. 520 00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:23,031 - You're a what? Psychologist? 521 00:23:23,032 --> 00:23:25,225 - Psychiatrist. Same difference. 522 00:23:25,226 --> 00:23:26,660 Just a few more days of school. 523 00:23:26,661 --> 00:23:28,370 - Oh. 524 00:23:28,371 --> 00:23:30,397 So you know why people try to kill themselves. 525 00:23:30,398 --> 00:23:32,232 - Yeah, 'cause they have more pain inside them 526 00:23:32,233 --> 00:23:34,376 than they can bear. 527 00:23:34,377 --> 00:23:37,279 And they think that throwing in the towel 528 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,184 is easier than facing the cause of that pain. 529 00:23:42,185 --> 00:23:45,954 - I don't deserve to live. 530 00:23:45,955 --> 00:23:47,956 - Why do you think that? 531 00:23:52,862 --> 00:23:56,256 When did you start playing the piano? 532 00:23:56,257 --> 00:23:59,234 - I was five. My mother taught me. 533 00:24:00,803 --> 00:24:02,905 She said music was the one place in her life 534 00:24:02,906 --> 00:24:06,475 where she could find... 535 00:24:06,476 --> 00:24:08,310 - Perfection. 536 00:24:12,281 --> 00:24:16,084 You were an only child? - Yes. 537 00:24:16,085 --> 00:24:18,053 - She must've treasured you. 538 00:24:22,058 --> 00:24:23,459 - She used to read me stories. 539 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:25,627 - What sort of stories? 540 00:24:25,628 --> 00:24:27,287 - Fairy tales. 541 00:24:27,288 --> 00:24:30,248 She called me her little princess. 542 00:24:36,973 --> 00:24:40,091 - Princesses lead such perfect lives, don't they? 543 00:24:45,114 --> 00:24:48,008 Did your mother give you this? 544 00:24:48,009 --> 00:24:49,451 - No. 545 00:24:49,452 --> 00:24:53,055 My father gave it to me. 546 00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:56,391 - Tell me about your father. 547 00:24:56,392 --> 00:24:58,260 - I don't... I don't wanna talk about him. 548 00:24:58,261 --> 00:25:01,062 Do you remember when he gave it to you? 549 00:25:03,332 --> 00:25:05,167 Do you remember how it felt 550 00:25:05,168 --> 00:25:07,027 when you held her in your arms? 551 00:25:07,028 --> 00:25:08,295 - You stop. 552 00:25:08,296 --> 00:25:11,932 You stop torturing me. 553 00:25:11,933 --> 00:25:17,812 You don't know anything about how I feel. 554 00:25:21,517 --> 00:25:23,485 Maybe I should ask for a lawyer. 555 00:25:23,486 --> 00:25:26,421 - But we're talking. Why do you need a lawyer? 556 00:25:28,516 --> 00:25:31,593 - What was that? 557 00:25:31,594 --> 00:25:33,428 Is there someone watching us? 558 00:25:33,429 --> 00:25:36,398 - Just give me a moment. 559 00:25:38,801 --> 00:25:40,636 Why the hell did you do that? I was just getting somewhere. 560 00:25:40,637 --> 00:25:44,006 - You cannot tell her that she doesn't need a lawyer. 561 00:25:44,007 --> 00:25:45,607 - Well, what difference does that make? 562 00:25:45,608 --> 00:25:47,500 - It's the difference between giving us a confession 563 00:25:47,501 --> 00:25:49,177 that we can use in court and one we can't. 564 00:25:49,178 --> 00:25:50,846 - But I'm a psychiatrist, not a cop. 565 00:25:50,847 --> 00:25:52,781 - No, you are an agent of the police. 566 00:25:52,782 --> 00:25:54,674 And anything that she says after you tell her 567 00:25:54,675 --> 00:25:58,554 "you don't need a lawyer," is illegally obtained. 568 00:25:58,555 --> 00:26:00,589 - Can she change her mind? 569 00:26:00,590 --> 00:26:02,624 Legally? 570 00:26:04,343 --> 00:26:07,963 - Yes. 571 00:26:07,964 --> 00:26:09,464 - Okay. 572 00:26:12,051 --> 00:26:14,061 I've enjoyed talking with you, June, 573 00:26:14,062 --> 00:26:16,204 but I'm afraid we've got to stop. 574 00:26:16,205 --> 00:26:17,673 - Then I have to talk to them. 575 00:26:17,674 --> 00:26:21,201 - Yes. 576 00:26:21,202 --> 00:26:23,203 - No. 577 00:26:23,204 --> 00:26:24,371 Why do you have to go? 578 00:26:24,372 --> 00:26:27,007 - Because you asked me about a lawyer. 579 00:26:27,008 --> 00:26:28,708 But I wish you all the best. 580 00:26:28,709 --> 00:26:30,710 - If... if I say that 581 00:26:30,711 --> 00:26:33,121 I don't need a lawyer, can you stay? 582 00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:38,860 - Yes. 583 00:26:38,861 --> 00:26:41,830 - Okay. I don't need a lawyer. 584 00:26:43,633 --> 00:26:46,568 I don't want them watching me. 585 00:26:49,338 --> 00:26:52,340 - Then come and sit over here. 586 00:26:54,977 --> 00:26:57,679 If you sit here, they won't be able to see you. 587 00:27:04,887 --> 00:27:06,446 You know, you said that 588 00:27:06,447 --> 00:27:09,057 I don't know anything about how you feel. 589 00:27:09,058 --> 00:27:10,258 Well, you're wrong. I do know. 590 00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:13,895 I know about pain within families. 591 00:27:15,665 --> 00:27:17,657 When she was 16, 592 00:27:17,658 --> 00:27:21,236 my daughter stopped speaking to me. 593 00:27:21,237 --> 00:27:23,472 For 20 years... 594 00:27:23,473 --> 00:27:26,441 She hated me. 595 00:27:26,442 --> 00:27:29,244 My little Ann. 596 00:27:29,245 --> 00:27:32,314 She was about your age. 597 00:27:32,315 --> 00:27:36,151 - What happened to her? 598 00:27:36,152 --> 00:27:39,221 - She was attacked 599 00:27:39,222 --> 00:27:43,950 by somebody who worked with me. 600 00:27:43,951 --> 00:27:47,696 And she died. 601 00:27:47,697 --> 00:27:50,132 - Oh, my God. 602 00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:53,068 Why did she hate you so much? 603 00:27:53,069 --> 00:27:55,103 - Well, when she was younger, 604 00:27:55,104 --> 00:28:00,342 I was addicted to sex and alcohol. 605 00:28:00,343 --> 00:28:03,879 - Did you do something bad to her? 606 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,213 - As it turned out, no. 607 00:28:05,214 --> 00:28:07,082 But... 608 00:28:07,083 --> 00:28:10,085 For 20 years, I thought I had. 609 00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:13,354 No one should have to live with shame like that. 610 00:28:15,925 --> 00:28:18,860 So I do understand how you feel. 611 00:28:25,134 --> 00:28:29,304 - One night when I was seven, my... 612 00:28:29,305 --> 00:28:32,273 My dad came into my room at bedtime. 613 00:28:34,076 --> 00:28:36,011 He told me how special I was. 614 00:28:36,012 --> 00:28:40,248 That... 615 00:28:40,249 --> 00:28:44,553 I was the most important thing in his life. 616 00:28:44,554 --> 00:28:48,348 And he wanted to give me a present. 617 00:28:48,349 --> 00:28:52,385 He gave me the... this doll, and... 618 00:28:52,386 --> 00:28:57,766 He said that she reminded him of me 619 00:28:57,767 --> 00:29:00,402 because I was his perfect little doll. 620 00:29:00,403 --> 00:29:04,172 And then... 621 00:29:04,173 --> 00:29:07,208 - He got into bed with you. 622 00:29:11,313 --> 00:29:12,872 - Um... 623 00:29:15,342 --> 00:29:17,419 It's my fault. 'Cause I knew. 624 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:18,845 I knew it was wrong. 625 00:29:18,846 --> 00:29:21,757 But he said that we couldn't... 626 00:29:21,758 --> 00:29:24,851 we couldn't tell anyone, because... 627 00:29:24,852 --> 00:29:29,231 Because no one would understand. 628 00:29:29,232 --> 00:29:32,300 - You just wanted to show your father you loved him. 629 00:29:32,301 --> 00:29:37,906 You thought that if you could be the perfect little girl 630 00:29:37,907 --> 00:29:40,875 that he'd stop hurting you. 631 00:29:44,563 --> 00:29:46,148 Like marnie. 632 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:48,549 The little girl you wished you were. 633 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,979 That's why you had to give her the doll 634 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,740 to keep her safe. 635 00:29:58,327 --> 00:30:02,589 - This wasn't supposed to happen. 636 00:30:02,590 --> 00:30:04,099 It wasn't. 637 00:30:06,294 --> 00:30:08,904 Why did... Why did you come to my house? 638 00:30:08,905 --> 00:30:12,641 I told your mother not to send you, 639 00:30:12,642 --> 00:30:13,975 that you shouldn't come. 640 00:30:13,976 --> 00:30:17,012 You... you would be fine 641 00:30:17,013 --> 00:30:19,339 if you hadn't come to my house. 642 00:30:25,321 --> 00:30:27,455 I asked her if she wanted a glass of milk 643 00:30:27,456 --> 00:30:29,616 before we started. I put the pills in the milk. 644 00:30:29,617 --> 00:30:33,253 I... 645 00:30:33,254 --> 00:30:37,532 I- I-I gave it to her when we sat down at the piano 646 00:30:37,533 --> 00:30:40,401 and...She started to drift off. 647 00:30:40,402 --> 00:30:42,037 And then... 648 00:30:42,038 --> 00:30:44,105 - And then you took the wooden spoon. 649 00:30:46,659 --> 00:30:49,077 - She cried. 650 00:30:49,078 --> 00:30:50,879 And said that she was gonna tell her mother. 651 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,647 And that's when I knew. 652 00:30:52,648 --> 00:30:56,518 I knew that I couldn't let her wake up. 653 00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:58,520 - So you made her comfortable. 654 00:30:58,521 --> 00:31:02,590 - I got the pillow, and I got the sheets, 655 00:31:02,591 --> 00:31:07,428 and I... I wrapped her up, and she was cozy, and... 656 00:31:07,429 --> 00:31:09,455 I put the doll in there 657 00:31:09,456 --> 00:31:11,766 so that she wouldn't be alone, and... 658 00:31:11,767 --> 00:31:14,469 - And then you left her where God would find her. 659 00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:17,372 - I'm sorry. 660 00:31:17,373 --> 00:31:20,900 I'm sorry. Marnie, I'm so sorry. 661 00:31:20,901 --> 00:31:23,903 I'm so sorry. I'm... 662 00:31:23,904 --> 00:31:26,714 So sorry. 663 00:31:28,849 --> 00:31:31,516 I called ada and told her you got the confession. 664 00:31:31,517 --> 00:31:34,545 She said to get June into the system as quick as we can. 665 00:31:35,646 --> 00:31:37,054 - So what now? 666 00:31:37,055 --> 00:31:39,782 - She'll be booked, arraigned, and sent to jail. 667 00:31:39,783 --> 00:31:41,283 - Jail? 668 00:31:41,284 --> 00:31:42,894 She's still likely to try and kill herself. 669 00:31:42,895 --> 00:31:45,729 - We'll put her on suicide watch. 670 00:31:45,730 --> 00:31:47,298 You did a good job in there, by the way. 671 00:31:47,299 --> 00:31:49,066 - Wanna stay here permanent, doc? 672 00:31:49,067 --> 00:31:50,635 We could use a guy like you. 673 00:31:50,636 --> 00:31:52,294 - Dear lord... 674 00:31:52,295 --> 00:31:55,006 Please hear me when I ask you to forgive me 675 00:31:55,007 --> 00:31:57,408 for what I have done. 676 00:31:57,409 --> 00:32:01,078 My mistakes, my selfishness. 677 00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:04,248 Please hear me when I ask you 678 00:32:04,249 --> 00:32:07,109 to comfort marnie's precious soul, 679 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:09,921 and the souls of those 680 00:32:09,922 --> 00:32:12,548 that needed my comfort 681 00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:15,359 and protection that I couldn't give them. 682 00:32:16,687 --> 00:32:18,963 - "All of those that needed comfort and protection?" 683 00:32:18,964 --> 00:32:20,389 - Talking about marnie's murder 684 00:32:20,390 --> 00:32:23,367 may have triggered her memory. 685 00:32:25,670 --> 00:32:28,973 - She's confessing to more victims? 686 00:32:28,974 --> 00:32:31,209 - How many lives has she ruined? 687 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:33,803 - Let's interview her other students. 688 00:32:33,804 --> 00:32:36,047 Mm, neighbors, too. 689 00:32:36,048 --> 00:32:39,016 - I only take piano because my parents make me. 690 00:32:39,017 --> 00:32:40,318 I'd rather learn guitar, 691 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:42,053 but Ms. frye's always nice to me. 692 00:32:42,054 --> 00:32:43,354 - I love Ms. frye. 693 00:32:43,355 --> 00:32:45,089 She says I'm the best student she has. 694 00:32:45,090 --> 00:32:46,982 - Hurt me? No way. 695 00:32:46,983 --> 00:32:48,426 Ms. frye is great. 696 00:32:48,427 --> 00:32:50,194 - June tried to teach me to play, 697 00:32:50,195 --> 00:32:51,220 but I was never any good. 698 00:32:51,221 --> 00:32:52,396 So after a while I just quit 699 00:32:52,397 --> 00:32:54,198 to hang out with my friends. 700 00:32:54,199 --> 00:32:55,933 - She ever make you feel uncomfortable? 701 00:32:55,934 --> 00:32:56,967 - Only the other night, 702 00:32:56,968 --> 00:32:58,803 like, when she totally blew me off. 703 00:32:58,804 --> 00:33:01,030 - Which night? - It was Monday. 704 00:33:01,031 --> 00:33:03,266 My mom called, and she said I had to get home 705 00:33:03,267 --> 00:33:05,543 'cause that girl got kidnapped a couple blocks over. 706 00:33:05,544 --> 00:33:07,144 - Right. - So, like, I'm coming down 707 00:33:07,145 --> 00:33:08,812 the sidewalk, and there's June. 708 00:33:08,813 --> 00:33:10,814 And she's arguing with some old lady. 709 00:33:10,815 --> 00:33:14,110 And I said "hi," and she totally ignored me. 710 00:33:14,111 --> 00:33:15,986 - Old lady? - Yeah. 711 00:33:15,987 --> 00:33:17,747 She was, like, my grandma's age. 712 00:33:17,748 --> 00:33:19,615 She had a cane, too. 713 00:33:19,616 --> 00:33:22,051 So, like, she goes limping up the stoop with June, 714 00:33:22,052 --> 00:33:25,029 and I'm, like, "whatever, later." 715 00:33:26,364 --> 00:33:27,757 - It was June's mother. 716 00:33:27,758 --> 00:33:29,667 - June said her parents died when she was 17. 717 00:33:29,668 --> 00:33:33,337 - The father did, the mother remarried. 718 00:33:33,338 --> 00:33:36,440 Elaine frye Cavanaugh is alive and in Brooklyn. 719 00:33:36,441 --> 00:33:38,242 - Well, well, well... How'd you get that? 720 00:33:38,243 --> 00:33:39,677 - I ran her name through the system, 721 00:33:39,678 --> 00:33:42,146 thinking that I would find an aunt or an older cousin 722 00:33:42,147 --> 00:33:44,048 with a limp. Up popped mom herself. 723 00:33:44,049 --> 00:33:45,816 - Legal clerk for over 30 years. 724 00:33:45,817 --> 00:33:47,685 And there you go, went on disability in '04, 725 00:33:47,686 --> 00:33:49,186 when she slipped and broke her leg in borough hall. 726 00:33:49,187 --> 00:33:51,489 - But why would June say her mother's dead? 727 00:33:51,490 --> 00:33:52,990 - Well, you're the shrink, 728 00:33:52,991 --> 00:33:54,692 I figured you'd knock that one out of the park. 729 00:33:54,693 --> 00:33:56,060 - 'Cause she wanted her mother dead... 730 00:33:56,061 --> 00:33:59,897 - For not protecting her from her father's abuse. 731 00:33:59,898 --> 00:34:02,400 - For abusing her herself? 732 00:34:02,401 --> 00:34:04,402 - You think that Elaine molested June? 733 00:34:04,403 --> 00:34:05,795 - Some girls abused by their mothers 734 00:34:05,796 --> 00:34:07,062 do say their fathers did it, 735 00:34:07,063 --> 00:34:09,765 because they can't face the reality. 736 00:34:09,766 --> 00:34:11,108 - And because no one can believe 737 00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:13,811 that a mother could abuse her own daughter. 738 00:34:13,812 --> 00:34:15,413 - You know, I'm beginning to think we got this backwards. 739 00:34:15,414 --> 00:34:17,315 June did not call mom over 740 00:34:17,316 --> 00:34:20,318 to help dispose of the body. 741 00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:22,653 How about mom was already there when marnie came over? 742 00:34:22,654 --> 00:34:26,323 - June's mother killed marnie. 743 00:34:28,493 --> 00:34:30,161 - I don't understand. 744 00:34:30,162 --> 00:34:31,896 Since when is it a sin for a mother 745 00:34:31,897 --> 00:34:33,364 to visit her daughter's house? 746 00:34:33,365 --> 00:34:35,166 - Well, it's a sin for June to lie 747 00:34:35,167 --> 00:34:37,168 and tell everybody that you're dead. 748 00:34:37,169 --> 00:34:40,137 June says I'm dead? 749 00:34:40,138 --> 00:34:41,639 - Why is that funny? - It's typical. 750 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,375 Silly June, head in the clouds. 751 00:34:44,376 --> 00:34:46,936 Roger let her get away with it for years. 752 00:34:46,937 --> 00:34:49,913 - Your first husband? - Yes. 753 00:34:49,914 --> 00:34:52,141 I tried to instill discipline in June. 754 00:34:52,142 --> 00:34:55,378 Do well in school, practice your piano. 755 00:34:55,379 --> 00:34:57,622 And Roger would come right along behind me 756 00:34:57,623 --> 00:35:01,058 and spoil her with candy and sleepovers. 757 00:35:01,059 --> 00:35:02,526 That's why I divorced him. 758 00:35:02,527 --> 00:35:04,128 - Yeah, well, it's a tough world out there, 759 00:35:04,129 --> 00:35:05,763 you can't screw around. 760 00:35:05,764 --> 00:35:06,964 - Clearly you have children. 761 00:35:06,965 --> 00:35:08,766 - I've got five. 762 00:35:08,767 --> 00:35:11,202 - Then you know perfection isn't easily attained. 763 00:35:11,203 --> 00:35:13,029 - And your current husband? 764 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:14,772 Did he demand perfection from June, too? 765 00:35:14,773 --> 00:35:16,240 - Grant? 766 00:35:16,241 --> 00:35:18,509 He's not current. He died last year. 767 00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:20,778 And was just as weak and useless as Roger. 768 00:35:20,779 --> 00:35:22,680 - So you had to be the disciplinarian. 769 00:35:22,681 --> 00:35:25,416 - I was always fair. But firm. 770 00:35:25,417 --> 00:35:27,785 - But when your kids act up, nothing fixes them faster 771 00:35:27,786 --> 00:35:29,153 than the handle of a spoon, huh? 772 00:35:30,955 --> 00:35:32,990 - You'll have to tell me what that means. 773 00:35:32,991 --> 00:35:34,358 - Put it this way. 774 00:35:34,359 --> 00:35:36,327 You weren't teaching June how to bake cookies. 775 00:35:36,328 --> 00:35:38,362 - Or marnie foster, for that matter. 776 00:35:38,363 --> 00:35:41,732 - The girl? The one who died? 777 00:35:41,733 --> 00:35:43,034 - Don't pretend you don't know who she is. 778 00:35:43,035 --> 00:35:44,335 - What are you accusing me of? 779 00:35:44,336 --> 00:35:46,270 - Why'd you go to June's house on Monday? 780 00:35:46,271 --> 00:35:48,973 Because it doesn't really sound 781 00:35:48,974 --> 00:35:50,408 like she loved mommy all that much. 782 00:35:50,409 --> 00:35:53,811 - Don't presume to know how my daughter feels about me. 783 00:35:53,812 --> 00:35:55,704 - Now what's presumptuous is after the horror 784 00:35:55,705 --> 00:35:56,947 that you put her through 785 00:35:56,948 --> 00:35:58,683 that you made her clean up your mess. 786 00:35:58,684 --> 00:36:00,685 - I do not make messes. 787 00:36:00,686 --> 00:36:02,153 - What happened with marnie? 788 00:36:02,154 --> 00:36:03,254 Did you give her the spoon treatment 789 00:36:03,255 --> 00:36:04,355 the way you did June? 790 00:36:04,356 --> 00:36:05,923 - Get out, both of you. 791 00:36:05,924 --> 00:36:07,591 - You drug her, sodomize, and smother her? 792 00:36:07,592 --> 00:36:08,784 - Get out! 793 00:36:08,785 --> 00:36:09,994 I'm calling my lawyer. 794 00:36:09,995 --> 00:36:11,629 - And then you abused June one more time 795 00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:13,564 by making her dump the girl's body 796 00:36:13,565 --> 00:36:14,765 in front of the church. 797 00:36:14,766 --> 00:36:16,567 What's going on? 798 00:36:16,568 --> 00:36:18,302 Katie... 799 00:36:18,303 --> 00:36:19,795 Tell them where I was Monday. 800 00:36:19,796 --> 00:36:21,739 Tell them how I got there. 801 00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:24,533 - M-m-mom had a bridge tournament 802 00:36:24,534 --> 00:36:26,744 u- u-up in Stanford. 803 00:36:26,745 --> 00:36:29,046 I drove her up and dropped her off. 804 00:36:29,047 --> 00:36:30,114 - You have two daughters? 805 00:36:30,115 --> 00:36:32,683 - One by Roger, one by grant. 806 00:36:32,684 --> 00:36:34,418 Is that a crime? 807 00:36:34,419 --> 00:36:36,312 - What do you people want? 808 00:36:36,313 --> 00:36:37,880 I didn't do anything. 809 00:36:37,881 --> 00:36:39,490 - Nobody said you did. 810 00:36:39,491 --> 00:36:41,325 - Katie, shut your mouth. 811 00:36:41,326 --> 00:36:42,793 - No, Katie, keep talking. 812 00:36:42,794 --> 00:36:45,054 - You don't need to be here. 813 00:36:45,055 --> 00:36:47,465 Don't you understand, I didn't do anything! 814 00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:49,533 - Katie! 815 00:36:49,534 --> 00:36:52,503 - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! 816 00:36:54,606 --> 00:36:55,840 - Katie? 817 00:37:04,949 --> 00:37:07,118 - Katie? 818 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,152 Come on out, honey. 819 00:37:08,153 --> 00:37:11,105 Come on. 820 00:37:13,925 --> 00:37:15,493 - Why are you running away from us? 821 00:37:15,494 --> 00:37:16,852 - I didn't do anything. 822 00:37:16,853 --> 00:37:19,955 - Katie... Is this your bedroom? 823 00:37:19,956 --> 00:37:22,800 - Yes. 824 00:37:22,801 --> 00:37:24,201 - Leave my little girl alone. 825 00:37:24,202 --> 00:37:27,154 Get out of my bedroom. 826 00:37:29,140 --> 00:37:31,375 - Your bedroom? 827 00:37:31,376 --> 00:37:34,344 She just said it was hers. 828 00:37:38,349 --> 00:37:41,118 - Oh, my God. 829 00:37:43,721 --> 00:37:46,590 - Why did you come? 830 00:37:46,591 --> 00:37:47,792 I told you everything. 831 00:37:47,793 --> 00:37:49,126 - Except the truth. 832 00:37:49,127 --> 00:37:51,061 - You don't belong in here, June. 833 00:37:51,062 --> 00:37:52,296 You never did. 834 00:37:52,297 --> 00:37:54,431 - Guard! 835 00:37:54,432 --> 00:37:55,958 - Take me back! 836 00:37:55,959 --> 00:37:57,802 - The only place you're going is home. 837 00:37:57,803 --> 00:38:00,229 - No, I did a terrible thing there. 838 00:38:00,230 --> 00:38:03,440 - We know. You put marnie in the duffle. 839 00:38:03,441 --> 00:38:04,842 But you didn't kill her. 840 00:38:04,843 --> 00:38:07,278 - What you did, you did out of love. 841 00:38:07,279 --> 00:38:10,506 To repay some debt you never owed in the first place. 842 00:38:10,507 --> 00:38:13,342 - June? 843 00:38:13,343 --> 00:38:16,387 Why did you tell them? 844 00:38:16,388 --> 00:38:19,248 - I didn't. I didn't. 845 00:38:19,249 --> 00:38:22,017 I didn't, Katie. I promise. 846 00:38:22,018 --> 00:38:25,830 - It's okay, June. - No, it's not okay. 847 00:38:25,831 --> 00:38:27,765 I'm so sorry! 848 00:38:27,766 --> 00:38:30,834 Mommy wasn't hurting me anymore, and I... 849 00:38:31,886 --> 00:38:35,506 I left you. 850 00:38:35,507 --> 00:38:37,107 I left you alone with her, 851 00:38:37,108 --> 00:38:39,835 and I should've stayed to protect you. 852 00:38:39,836 --> 00:38:42,213 - June, you cannot blame yourself. 853 00:38:42,214 --> 00:38:43,280 You were a victim. 854 00:38:43,281 --> 00:38:46,208 Your mother did terrible things to you. 855 00:38:46,209 --> 00:38:48,110 - Come on. 856 00:38:48,111 --> 00:38:50,679 None of this is your fault. 857 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,114 June, listen to me. 858 00:38:52,115 --> 00:38:56,827 None of this is your fault. 859 00:38:56,828 --> 00:39:00,698 Is it, Katie? 860 00:39:00,699 --> 00:39:04,835 - I told June that I was gonna go to her house 861 00:39:04,836 --> 00:39:08,839 and she said that she would be out for a while, 862 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,068 and that I should let myself in with my key. 863 00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:14,511 And... 864 00:39:14,512 --> 00:39:16,447 And she said that she had cancelled 865 00:39:16,448 --> 00:39:19,116 her first piano lesson. 866 00:39:19,117 --> 00:39:23,487 But when I got there, the little student 867 00:39:23,488 --> 00:39:26,048 was...On the porch. 868 00:39:26,049 --> 00:39:28,459 - Marnie? Marnie foster? 869 00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:30,394 - Yes. 870 00:39:30,395 --> 00:39:34,731 I'd seen her before having her lessons, and... 871 00:39:37,936 --> 00:39:42,239 We went inside. And she was so cute. 872 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,476 So innocent and sweet. 873 00:39:45,477 --> 00:39:49,480 And I don't know why, 874 00:39:49,481 --> 00:39:51,715 but suddenly... 875 00:39:51,716 --> 00:39:55,719 I asked her if I could take her clothes off. 876 00:39:55,720 --> 00:40:00,891 And, um... 877 00:40:00,892 --> 00:40:03,860 She said "no," and she tried to leave. 878 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,735 And, um... 879 00:40:11,736 --> 00:40:13,704 That's when got real mad. 880 00:40:16,975 --> 00:40:18,909 But I didn't want her to feel bad, 881 00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:21,879 so I went into the kitchen, 882 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,548 and I got some of... 883 00:40:24,549 --> 00:40:27,451 The pills, the ones that June uses 884 00:40:27,452 --> 00:40:28,953 to go to sleep with. 885 00:40:28,954 --> 00:40:31,956 - And what else did you get from the kitchen? 886 00:40:31,957 --> 00:40:34,658 - The spoon. - The wooden spoon? 887 00:40:34,659 --> 00:40:38,595 - Like the one that my mom uses. 888 00:40:38,596 --> 00:40:42,099 And then June came home, 889 00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:47,004 and she saw what I had done. 890 00:40:47,005 --> 00:40:48,772 - Please... 891 00:40:48,773 --> 00:40:52,167 I don't wanna listen anymore. 892 00:40:52,168 --> 00:40:54,345 - June, you're gonna have to testify 893 00:40:54,346 --> 00:40:57,881 against your half-sister about the abuse she endured. 894 00:40:57,882 --> 00:41:00,951 And also about your own abuse. 895 00:41:00,952 --> 00:41:02,686 - Will it keep her from going to prison? 896 00:41:02,687 --> 00:41:06,957 - Katie will be sent to a psychiatric facility. 897 00:41:06,958 --> 00:41:09,727 - We'll do everything we can to help her. 898 00:41:09,728 --> 00:41:13,063 But she'll never be free again. 899 00:41:13,064 --> 00:41:14,798 - What about my mother? 900 00:41:14,799 --> 00:41:17,526 - There was only one bed in the apartment 901 00:41:17,527 --> 00:41:18,902 that Katie shared with her, 902 00:41:18,903 --> 00:41:21,138 so your mother will be going to jail 903 00:41:21,139 --> 00:41:22,506 for the ongoing abuse. 904 00:41:22,507 --> 00:41:25,342 - June? 905 00:41:27,845 --> 00:41:31,774 June. 906 00:41:31,775 --> 00:41:34,710 I still love you. 907 00:41:34,711 --> 00:41:38,789 You'll always be my sister. 908 00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:40,090 - Katie. 909 00:41:40,091 --> 00:41:44,395 - Can you sit down and talk with me some more? 910 00:41:44,396 --> 00:41:46,288 Can you do that? 911 00:41:46,289 --> 00:41:49,333 Okay, come on. 912 00:41:49,334 --> 00:41:51,760 - I let my whole family be destroyed. 913 00:41:51,761 --> 00:41:56,673 How can I forgive myself? 914 00:41:56,674 --> 00:42:00,936 - You can start... 915 00:42:00,937 --> 00:42:04,273 By letting me help you try. 916 00:42:04,274 --> 00:42:07,276 Hmm?