1 00:00:01,115 --> 00:00:02,932 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:02,932 --> 00:00:06,506 sexually-based offenses are considered especially heinous. 3 00:00:06,506 --> 00:00:07,792 In New York City, 4 00:00:07,792 --> 00:00:11,370 the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members 5 00:00:11,370 --> 00:00:14,696 of an elite squad known as The Special Victims Unit. 6 00:00:14,696 --> 00:00:16,677 These are their stories. 7 00:00:33,976 --> 00:00:36,748 Guy dropped these off about 45 minutes ago. 8 00:00:37,757 --> 00:00:39,504 Photomat down the street just closed. 9 00:00:39,504 --> 00:00:40,937 Never seen this guy before. 10 00:00:40,937 --> 00:00:42,191 What's his name? 11 00:00:42,611 --> 00:00:46,319 Holt, Larry Holt... had a coupon. 12 00:00:46,871 --> 00:00:49,308 Rep came in... gave us a talk about these things, 13 00:00:49,308 --> 00:00:51,791 told me to call if I saw something weird. 14 00:00:52,062 --> 00:00:53,298 This is kid is posed. 15 00:00:53,298 --> 00:00:54,812 Look at the way he's looking at the camera. 16 00:00:54,812 --> 00:00:56,543 Yeah, that's it. 17 00:00:56,543 --> 00:00:58,383 Open bottle of alcohol... 18 00:00:58,383 --> 00:01:01,158 "Endangering the Welfare of a Child." 19 00:01:01,704 --> 00:01:03,127 You don't think this is enough to make an arrest? 20 00:01:03,127 --> 00:01:05,299 No, "EWC" is all we can arrest him on. 21 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:07,336 We're going to have a hard time proving this is child porn. 22 00:01:07,336 --> 00:01:10,541 But my gut feeling is, this is the tip of the iceberg. 23 00:01:10,541 --> 00:01:13,547 Guy gets one whiff of us and he's going to clean out everything. 24 00:01:13,547 --> 00:01:17,340 So let's follow him for a few weeks, and don't waft his way. 25 00:01:23,751 --> 00:01:25,976 What's going on here? 26 00:01:27,038 --> 00:01:29,050 So much for not "wafting his way." 27 00:01:29,050 --> 00:01:31,701 - Are these your photos? - Yes. 28 00:01:39,238 --> 00:01:41,784 자막제작 - NSC 자막팀 (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 29 00:01:42,224 --> 00:01:43,447 싱크편집 윤선영(seedyun@nate.com) 30 00:01:43,447 --> 00:01:44,639 한글번역 (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 31 00:01:44,639 --> 00:01:45,879 한글번역 (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 32 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:47,057 한글번역 (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 33 00:01:47,057 --> 00:01:48,264 한글번역 (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 34 00:01:49,428 --> 00:01:51,422 크리스 멜로니 (엘리엇 스테이블러 형사 役) 35 00:01:54,981 --> 00:01:57,397 마리스카 하기테이 (올리비아 벤슨 형사 役) 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,528 리차드 벨저 (존 먼치 형사 役) 37 00:02:03,649 --> 00:02:05,519 미셸 허드 (모니카 제프리스 형사 役) 38 00:02:06,897 --> 00:02:08,744 댄 플로렉 (돈 크레이건 경감 役) 39 00:02:13,619 --> 00:02:17,720 Law & Order SVU 1x21 Nocturne 40 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:23,322 ORIGINAL AIR DATE ON NBC: 2000/05/12 41 00:02:27,097 --> 00:02:29,887 Where there's one photo, there's a hundred more. 42 00:02:29,887 --> 00:02:31,675 You don't even have "EWC." 43 00:02:31,675 --> 00:02:35,064 That kid is clearly under 18, that bottle is clearly over 80 proof. 44 00:02:35,064 --> 00:02:37,542 You don't know that. You can't prove that's not apple juice. 45 00:02:37,542 --> 00:02:39,568 You can't prove he drank from the bottle. 46 00:02:39,568 --> 00:02:40,842 He could have found a stash. 47 00:02:40,842 --> 00:02:43,322 - Which is "EWC." - You jumped the gun. 48 00:02:43,322 --> 00:02:46,946 We didn't have another choice. Holt knew we were detectives. 49 00:02:46,946 --> 00:02:48,769 - If there are other photos.. - And there are. 50 00:02:48,769 --> 00:02:50,900 ...he would've gone straight home and destroyed 'em. 51 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:55,187 There's nothing in these photos that we can do anything about. 52 00:02:57,423 --> 00:02:59,333 Captain, take a look at this. 53 00:02:59,333 --> 00:03:01,673 Middle of winter... kid is wearing hot pants. / They're shorts. 54 00:03:01,673 --> 00:03:04,586 Shorts that ride up too high on his legs. / He had a growth spurt. 55 00:03:04,586 --> 00:03:07,889 Someone had to tell that kid to drop his chin and smile. That's not normal. 56 00:03:07,889 --> 00:03:10,101 Unless you're in a beauty pageant. 57 00:03:10,101 --> 00:03:13,251 It's a boy. How many boys you know go "JonBenet"? 58 00:03:13,251 --> 00:03:14,626 All right, keep going. 59 00:03:15,711 --> 00:03:17,531 The pose, the look... 60 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:19,983 these are learned, these are taught, and not by other kids. 61 00:03:19,983 --> 00:03:21,982 The kind of guy who takes these pictures, 62 00:03:21,982 --> 00:03:23,308 is going to keep these. 63 00:03:23,308 --> 00:03:25,219 He's going to cherish 'em, collect 'em. 64 00:03:25,219 --> 00:03:27,422 How's the kid in these photos related to Holt? 65 00:03:27,422 --> 00:03:29,781 Guy's a piano teacher, he's a student. 66 00:03:29,781 --> 00:03:31,590 These are sexualized photos. 67 00:03:31,590 --> 00:03:34,160 Pedophiles keep evidence of their sexual acts. 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,950 I know there are more pictures in Holt's apartment. 69 00:03:36,950 --> 00:03:40,954 I suppose you want a warrant, based on your "ESP"? 70 00:03:40,954 --> 00:03:42,669 Yeah, I do. 71 00:03:43,254 --> 00:03:45,272 This is post-McMartin, people. 72 00:03:45,272 --> 00:03:48,865 Any judge worth her salt will throw out Holt's arrest at his arraignment. 73 00:03:48,865 --> 00:03:50,688 Captain Cragen? 74 00:03:51,570 --> 00:03:52,978 My client has informed me 75 00:03:52,978 --> 00:03:56,162 that you took his watch, his wallet, his house keys. 76 00:03:56,162 --> 00:03:59,213 We voucher all personal property at the time of arrest 77 00:03:59,213 --> 00:04:01,908 to prevent theft or accidental loss. 78 00:04:01,908 --> 00:04:03,326 I need those keys. 79 00:04:03,326 --> 00:04:04,453 Why? 80 00:04:04,453 --> 00:04:07,600 - To get in that house. - Tell me why. 81 00:04:07,930 --> 00:04:10,933 - Need to feed the dog. - The dog will be fine. 82 00:04:10,933 --> 00:04:14,482 - Where are my client's keys? - Property clerk. 83 00:04:19,205 --> 00:04:22,962 You did make a run to the property clerk? 84 00:04:23,178 --> 00:04:24,409 In about two hours. 85 00:04:24,409 --> 00:04:25,509 There is something in Holt's apartment. 86 00:04:25,509 --> 00:04:27,122 I'll put a uniform on the door. 87 00:04:27,122 --> 00:04:29,202 You get a probable cause, you get a warrant. 88 00:04:29,202 --> 00:04:31,002 What about the kid in these photos? 89 00:04:31,002 --> 00:04:32,046 It's a small neighborhood. 90 00:04:32,046 --> 00:04:33,156 Let's go. 91 00:04:34,365 --> 00:04:35,600 The building's sealed. 92 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,315 Who the hell are you to tell me I can't go in there? 93 00:04:37,315 --> 00:04:39,884 My lieutenant told me to not let anyone in. 94 00:04:39,884 --> 00:04:41,179 - You can't stop me. - I can, and I am. 95 00:04:41,179 --> 00:04:43,857 Excuse me, Is there a problem here? 96 00:04:43,857 --> 00:04:45,638 Yes. Hi. / Hi. 97 00:04:45,638 --> 00:04:47,738 This officer is preventing me from entering my house. 98 00:04:47,738 --> 00:04:49,888 - You live here? - No, my father lives here. 99 00:04:49,888 --> 00:04:52,719 Then I'm sorry, these premises are secured. 100 00:04:53,406 --> 00:04:55,081 - Do you have a warrant? - It's before a judge, 101 00:04:55,081 --> 00:04:58,940 and until she rules, we'll be locking this place down. 102 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,552 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 103 00:05:03,209 --> 00:05:04,423 They got a money tree in this place, what? 104 00:05:04,423 --> 00:05:05,544 We don't know. 105 00:05:05,544 --> 00:05:08,543 This whole place belongs to Holt? 106 00:05:08,543 --> 00:05:09,777 Nice place. 107 00:05:09,978 --> 00:05:12,174 It's too nice. Where's a piano teacher get that kind of money? 108 00:05:12,174 --> 00:05:14,375 A rich white guy moves into this neighborhood? 109 00:05:14,375 --> 00:05:15,267 Not by accident. 110 00:05:15,267 --> 00:05:16,209 You think it's an accident that 111 00:05:16,209 --> 00:05:18,895 he lives across the street from an elementary school? 112 00:05:21,226 --> 00:05:22,970 Excuse me! / Whoa! 113 00:05:23,181 --> 00:05:24,762 How you doing? Where you going? 114 00:05:24,762 --> 00:05:27,762 I have a piano lessons. 115 00:05:30,813 --> 00:05:33,947 So, Jonathan, is Mr. Holt a good teacher? 116 00:05:33,947 --> 00:05:36,947 Yeah, you know, good. Yeah? 117 00:05:36,947 --> 00:05:39,584 Did he ever touch you when you were playing? 118 00:05:39,584 --> 00:05:43,045 Yeah, he keeps his hand on my back. It's for posture. 119 00:05:43,045 --> 00:05:46,404 Did that ever make you feel uncomfortable? 120 00:05:46,404 --> 00:05:48,850 My dad said it's okay. 121 00:05:48,850 --> 00:05:51,630 Look, that teacher's like that with all his students. 122 00:05:51,630 --> 00:05:54,578 - You go to his lessons? - I work late. 123 00:05:55,373 --> 00:05:56,953 So who are his students? 124 00:05:56,953 --> 00:05:58,244 Kids in the neighborhood. 125 00:05:58,244 --> 00:06:01,605 - Boys and girls? - Girls? Please. 126 00:06:01,605 --> 00:06:02,480 Okay. 127 00:06:03,207 --> 00:06:07,882 Jonathan, did Mr. Holt take pictures of you while you were playing? 128 00:06:07,882 --> 00:06:10,978 Yes, but he has a whole lot of other pictures. 129 00:06:10,978 --> 00:06:13,805 He calls them "snappies." 130 00:06:14,009 --> 00:06:15,432 "Snappies"? 131 00:06:15,432 --> 00:06:18,104 Did he ever show you these "snappies"? 132 00:06:18,104 --> 00:06:19,811 No, I found 'em. 133 00:06:21,704 --> 00:06:23,149 Where? 134 00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:25,381 I turn the page on the music stand, 135 00:06:25,381 --> 00:06:27,859 and a whole bunch of snappies fell out. 136 00:06:27,859 --> 00:06:29,782 Are they like the snappies he took of you? 137 00:06:29,782 --> 00:06:35,035 No, those boys in the snappies didn't have any clothes on. 138 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:41,335 Well, there's your probable cause. 139 00:06:41,335 --> 00:06:43,428 We're not going to get a nighttime exemption. 140 00:06:43,428 --> 00:06:47,022 If we don't hit that door by 9:00, we're not gonna get in until 6:00 a.m. 141 00:06:47,022 --> 00:06:48,793 Holt's lawyer's pushing for arraignment. 142 00:06:48,793 --> 00:06:51,415 We lose that uniform in two hours. 143 00:06:51,415 --> 00:06:54,250 We don't get into that house tonight, someone else will. 144 00:06:54,250 --> 00:06:56,059 You two go file the warrant. 145 00:06:56,059 --> 00:06:58,643 I'll page Judge Rothman. She owes me. 146 00:06:58,643 --> 00:07:01,104 We'll go in while the ink is drying. 147 00:07:02,576 --> 00:07:06,453 Residence Of Judge Rothman 79 Riverside Drive Thursday, February 3 148 00:07:06,705 --> 00:07:09,027 "Photos, negatives, slides, cameras, 149 00:07:09,027 --> 00:07:12,114 photographic equipment, books, magazines, xeroxes, 150 00:07:12,114 --> 00:07:15,854 and printed material at the residence of Lawrence Holt, 151 00:07:15,854 --> 00:07:17,651 30 East 112th Street." 152 00:07:17,651 --> 00:07:20,743 Wait, let's add videotape and film. 153 00:07:21,148 --> 00:07:25,836 Adding "video cassettes, videotape, and film." 154 00:07:25,836 --> 00:07:26,760 Anything else? 155 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,418 It's three till 9:00. 156 00:07:31,467 --> 00:07:32,790 You got your warrant. 157 00:07:33,137 --> 00:07:34,946 You got it? Great. 158 00:07:34,946 --> 00:07:36,679 We got it. Open it up. 159 00:07:45,698 --> 00:07:47,000 It's pretty quiet in here. 160 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,864 Maybe the dog died. 161 00:07:48,864 --> 00:07:50,693 What is this place? 162 00:07:51,278 --> 00:07:52,947 The lesson room. 163 00:08:09,737 --> 00:08:11,123 Okay. 164 00:08:37,236 --> 00:08:38,866 - Please don't. - It's okay. 165 00:08:38,866 --> 00:08:41,130 No, that hurts. 166 00:09:00,515 --> 00:09:03,608 And 43 photos in the album were obscene? 167 00:09:03,608 --> 00:09:04,480 Yes, Your Honor. 168 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,491 Your Honor, may I? 169 00:09:06,491 --> 00:09:07,746 Briefly. 170 00:09:07,746 --> 00:09:11,029 I understand that the court is under tremendous political pressure 171 00:09:11,029 --> 00:09:14,244 to punish child abusers to the fullest extent of the law. 172 00:09:14,244 --> 00:09:16,916 Somehow, it never seems enough. 173 00:09:17,454 --> 00:09:21,310 Based on the evidence found, the defendant is hereby charged with; 174 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:23,917 Endangering the welfare of a child; 175 00:09:23,917 --> 00:09:26,634 use of a child in a sexual performance; 176 00:09:26,634 --> 00:09:30,422 promoting an obscene sexual performance by a child. 177 00:09:30,422 --> 00:09:36,049 - How many tapes did you find? - Last count was... 157. 178 00:09:37,646 --> 00:09:40,099 Impressive, Mr. Holt. 179 00:09:40,684 --> 00:09:45,046 44 counts of possessing obscene sexual performance by a child. 180 00:09:45,046 --> 00:09:47,904 Your Honor, the people have clearly not had 181 00:09:47,904 --> 00:09:53,039 the opportunity or the time to inventory each videocassette. 182 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:56,004 Then we will all dread the discovery process. 183 00:09:56,004 --> 00:09:59,030 Bail is denied, defendant is remanded. 184 00:10:01,826 --> 00:10:04,388 - Are you ready to start? - Come play it with me. 185 00:10:04,388 --> 00:10:05,729 Okay, let's go. 186 00:10:05,729 --> 00:10:08,336 Is this the tape you found in the VCR? 187 00:10:08,336 --> 00:10:09,365 Yeah. 188 00:10:09,658 --> 00:10:12,292 This goes back 13 years. 189 00:10:14,210 --> 00:10:15,564 Okay. 190 00:10:26,681 --> 00:10:28,547 - Please don't. - It's okay. 191 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:31,184 No, that hurts. 192 00:10:47,916 --> 00:10:49,630 You scamp! 193 00:10:49,630 --> 00:10:52,317 I didn't know you were going to do that. 194 00:10:52,317 --> 00:10:53,653 Good for you! 195 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:56,256 What is this, Holt's Createst Hits"? 196 00:10:56,256 --> 00:10:58,511 How many kids are there? 197 00:11:06,430 --> 00:11:08,433 Please don't. 198 00:11:08,433 --> 00:11:10,741 You have so much talent, 199 00:11:10,741 --> 00:11:14,073 but you need to learn restraint. 200 00:11:14,073 --> 00:11:17,590 Technique is discipline. 201 00:11:21,834 --> 00:11:24,156 Not now, not again. 202 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:26,481 That's not a different kid. 203 00:11:26,481 --> 00:11:28,129 It's the same person. 204 00:11:28,129 --> 00:11:30,274 Grown up. 205 00:11:42,953 --> 00:11:44,909 That was very good. 206 00:11:44,909 --> 00:11:46,991 I felt your passion. 207 00:11:47,806 --> 00:11:49,004 Thank you. 208 00:11:59,193 --> 00:12:00,703 Did you see the tape? 209 00:12:00,954 --> 00:12:03,879 We usually just hear about it after. 210 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:05,911 To actually see it... 211 00:12:05,911 --> 00:12:08,822 There's a lot more to go through. 212 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:17,496 There could be 50, maybe 100 more kids. 213 00:12:22,837 --> 00:12:24,387 I'll do it. 214 00:12:25,536 --> 00:12:28,920 You got Holt arraigned on possession and promoting, all right? 215 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,307 We have to get back in there. 216 00:12:30,307 --> 00:12:32,986 We need his computer, day planner, his schedule. 217 00:12:32,986 --> 00:12:34,812 Wait a minute, what about abuse? 218 00:12:34,812 --> 00:12:36,829 No, no, to do that, you need a complainant. 219 00:12:36,829 --> 00:12:38,989 You need an actual kid. 220 00:12:38,989 --> 00:12:40,799 We need that kid. 221 00:12:49,739 --> 00:12:51,418 Okay, let's go. 222 00:12:55,378 --> 00:12:58,339 Looks familiar, but I don't know his name. 223 00:12:58,339 --> 00:13:01,152 Does your son take piano lessons from Mr. Holt? 224 00:13:01,152 --> 00:13:04,217 No, not yet. My son, he doesn't like music very much, 225 00:13:04,217 --> 00:13:06,553 but I've been talking to Larry about that. 226 00:13:06,553 --> 00:13:10,326 Larry says it's never too late to develop an ear. 227 00:13:13,649 --> 00:13:16,128 Yeah, sure. Plays piano. 228 00:13:16,128 --> 00:13:18,610 Know who you should ask about him? / The piano teacher. 229 00:13:18,610 --> 00:13:21,211 Yeah, Larry Holt... lives across the way. 230 00:13:21,211 --> 00:13:22,971 He knows every kid in this neighborhood. 231 00:13:22,971 --> 00:13:26,173 - What do you know about him? - Guy's a piano teacher. 232 00:13:26,173 --> 00:13:28,399 Little fruity, but, you know. 233 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:29,675 Fruity? 234 00:13:29,675 --> 00:13:34,345 Yeah, always touches everything, everyone, but, you know. 235 00:13:34,345 --> 00:13:37,711 - No, I don't know. - None of my business. 236 00:13:38,459 --> 00:13:40,257 Was there something going on? 237 00:13:40,257 --> 00:13:41,720 Why you care? 238 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,873 You're only here after something happens. 239 00:13:45,847 --> 00:13:47,537 I'm here now. 240 00:13:47,537 --> 00:13:49,978 Then that's your business. 241 00:13:50,896 --> 00:13:52,959 Holt rent a lot of children's videos? 242 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:56,365 I'll tell you right now, he's one of the most decent guys I know. 243 00:13:56,365 --> 00:13:58,791 He gave my kids piano lessons for free. 244 00:13:58,791 --> 00:14:01,141 Really? What did your kids say about him? 245 00:14:01,141 --> 00:14:03,881 That he was strict. But they like him. 246 00:14:03,881 --> 00:14:06,499 Anything going on, they'd tell me. 247 00:14:06,823 --> 00:14:09,286 You don't know Larry Holt. 248 00:14:09,286 --> 00:14:12,242 He takes kids and sees what they have in them, 249 00:14:12,242 --> 00:14:14,855 that they can do anything. 250 00:14:15,318 --> 00:14:17,829 - You see that kid? - Mm-hmm. 251 00:14:18,134 --> 00:14:20,893 His name is Rey Guzimano, heard of him? 252 00:14:20,893 --> 00:14:23,933 No. / Man can he play. 253 00:14:24,303 --> 00:14:26,968 Holt one of his teachers, too? 254 00:14:27,472 --> 00:14:30,012 You know, Holt makes a difference in people's lives. 255 00:14:30,012 --> 00:14:33,343 A hell of a lot more than you ever will. 256 00:14:33,683 --> 00:14:34,821 People knew. 257 00:14:34,821 --> 00:14:36,439 Maybe they're just trying to be optimistic. 258 00:14:36,439 --> 00:14:37,821 It's not the same as covering up. 259 00:14:37,821 --> 00:14:40,996 Yeah, they're busy. They're trying to keep everything together. 260 00:14:40,996 --> 00:14:42,936 Food on the table, their families. 261 00:14:42,936 --> 00:14:45,629 If they faced the truth, what kind of parents does that make them? 262 00:14:45,629 --> 00:14:48,282 - Did you talk to her? - I don't think so. 263 00:14:48,282 --> 00:14:49,350 Hold on. 264 00:14:50,202 --> 00:14:52,706 - I bet I know what you're thinking. - Bet you don't. 265 00:14:52,706 --> 00:14:55,240 Even the best parents can't protect their children. 266 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,485 Cutter at home... part of its broken, I need to fix it. 267 00:14:58,485 --> 00:15:00,756 Well, you can't do everything. 268 00:15:01,398 --> 00:15:04,630 You'd feel everything for 'em, if you could... 269 00:15:04,630 --> 00:15:06,235 all the pain. 270 00:15:06,844 --> 00:15:10,501 You know, sometimes I just look at kids and I think, 271 00:15:10,501 --> 00:15:12,053 "Why? 272 00:15:12,053 --> 00:15:13,799 Why do it at all?" 273 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:16,601 Because you want to more than anything in the world. 274 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:19,974 Because you want to love them everyday. 275 00:15:23,817 --> 00:15:25,443 Where is that? 276 00:15:32,173 --> 00:15:33,216 Hello? 277 00:15:33,806 --> 00:15:35,014 Excuse me. 278 00:15:36,035 --> 00:15:37,150 Hey! 279 00:15:50,731 --> 00:15:52,574 How did you get in here? 280 00:15:52,574 --> 00:15:55,808 I have a set of keys. Who are you? 281 00:15:55,808 --> 00:15:58,409 I'm Detective Benson, this is my partner Detective Stabler. 282 00:15:58,409 --> 00:16:00,563 - What's your name? - Evan. 283 00:16:00,563 --> 00:16:02,516 Evan, the way you play, it's... 284 00:16:02,516 --> 00:16:04,368 - Beautiful. - It's nice, yeah. 285 00:16:04,368 --> 00:16:07,435 Thanks. Can I help you? 286 00:16:07,435 --> 00:16:10,382 Yeah, we're looking for this person. 287 00:16:16,563 --> 00:16:18,576 It's a three-year program. 288 00:16:18,576 --> 00:16:20,849 - When's your audition? - Three days. 289 00:16:20,849 --> 00:16:23,706 - You nervous? - Yeah, it's Julliard. 290 00:16:23,706 --> 00:16:26,695 But if I get in, it'll be all thanks to Mr. Holt. 291 00:16:26,695 --> 00:16:27,948 Yeah, what do you mean? 292 00:16:27,948 --> 00:16:30,085 Mr. Holt's a great teacher. 293 00:16:30,085 --> 00:16:32,689 - Why? - Because he pushes you. 294 00:16:32,689 --> 00:16:34,052 How? 295 00:16:34,052 --> 00:16:36,190 Makes you practice a lot, 296 00:16:36,190 --> 00:16:39,308 so that way you can develop strong technique. 297 00:16:39,308 --> 00:16:41,111 How else did he push you? 298 00:16:41,111 --> 00:16:43,374 I don't know, I guess, just makes you practice a lot. 299 00:16:43,374 --> 00:16:45,646 How long have you been playing piano? 300 00:16:45,646 --> 00:16:47,478 Forever, I guess. 301 00:16:47,756 --> 00:16:51,250 But Mr. Holt's been really good to me. He taught me for free. 302 00:16:54,006 --> 00:16:57,142 I need to ask you about your piano teacher, 303 00:16:57,142 --> 00:16:59,382 about what he did to you. 304 00:16:59,382 --> 00:17:01,168 What do you mean... what he did to me? 305 00:17:01,168 --> 00:17:03,083 He hasn't done anything. 306 00:17:03,083 --> 00:17:07,394 Evan, I want you to know that everything you're feeling is totally normal. 307 00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:12,127 It's okay, but you got to tell us what happened. 308 00:17:13,194 --> 00:17:15,893 - Elton John. - Huh? 309 00:17:15,893 --> 00:17:19,299 My mother would play his "Greatest Hits, Volume One," over and over. 310 00:17:19,299 --> 00:17:22,340 His voice... when it would get really high... 311 00:17:22,340 --> 00:17:24,904 if I could sing like he could, I would, but I can't, 312 00:17:24,904 --> 00:17:26,876 so I learned how to play. 313 00:17:26,876 --> 00:17:30,151 How old were you the first time you had sex? 314 00:17:32,736 --> 00:17:35,067 I haven't yet. 315 00:17:36,092 --> 00:17:38,256 Mr. Holt didn't...? 316 00:17:39,915 --> 00:17:44,136 Evan, Mr. Holt hurt you. 317 00:17:44,136 --> 00:17:47,300 No, he didn't. 318 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:49,004 He's never touched you? 319 00:17:49,004 --> 00:17:49,843 Never. 320 00:17:49,843 --> 00:17:53,294 He pushed me... he raised the bar, 321 00:17:53,294 --> 00:17:56,451 and I met it each time. 322 00:18:02,611 --> 00:18:05,500 - He doesn't know he was videotaped. - We should show him the tape. 323 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:07,895 If we take away this kid's denial, 324 00:18:07,895 --> 00:18:09,483 are we going to stick around for the fallout? 325 00:18:09,483 --> 00:18:12,235 There are people.../ For as much pain as this kid's been through, 326 00:18:12,235 --> 00:18:16,207 there's an equal amount just waiting for him. 327 00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:20,587 Is it enough to try Holt for possessing and promoting child porn? 328 00:18:20,587 --> 00:18:22,198 He's guilty of a lot more. 329 00:18:22,198 --> 00:18:24,874 And possession and promoting, even with "EWC" tacked on, 330 00:18:24,874 --> 00:18:27,106 is still only going to bring seven years. 331 00:18:27,106 --> 00:18:28,834 That's why a jury's got to see the tape. 332 00:18:28,834 --> 00:18:30,935 Seeing that tape, I'll tell ya, 333 00:18:30,935 --> 00:18:33,715 it's going to wreck that child's life. 334 00:18:33,715 --> 00:18:37,881 Elliot, he is not a child, he's an adult. 335 00:18:47,548 --> 00:18:51,150 Hello, Evan. May I have a seat? 336 00:18:51,441 --> 00:18:52,487 Yeah. 337 00:18:53,631 --> 00:18:58,996 What you're going to see, is going to be very hard for you. 338 00:18:58,996 --> 00:19:01,116 What happened on this tape is wrong, 339 00:19:01,116 --> 00:19:03,827 and the man who did it deserves to be punished. 340 00:19:03,827 --> 00:19:05,187 We can't do that, Evan, 341 00:19:05,187 --> 00:19:08,493 without the help of the other person on this tape. 342 00:19:12,554 --> 00:19:15,027 - Are you ready to start? - Come play it with me. 343 00:19:15,027 --> 00:19:16,269 Okay. Let's go. 344 00:19:21,132 --> 00:19:21,611 That's good. 345 00:19:21,611 --> 00:19:25,031 - What's this? - Now watch your tempo. 346 00:19:25,031 --> 00:19:28,007 Arch your fingers. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 347 00:19:28,007 --> 00:19:31,920 Now remember your posture. Keep your shoulders back. 348 00:19:34,233 --> 00:19:37,408 No. No. Turn it off! 349 00:19:38,644 --> 00:19:40,534 No. / It's okay. It's all right, son. 350 00:19:40,534 --> 00:19:41,976 No! Shh, shh. Evan. 351 00:19:43,713 --> 00:19:45,507 No...! 352 00:19:57,948 --> 00:19:59,471 No. 353 00:20:03,907 --> 00:20:07,067 Holt moves into the neighborhood, somehow manages to blend in. 354 00:20:07,067 --> 00:20:09,020 He didn't blend in, he stood out. 355 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:11,788 That's exactly what these kids, Evan, need. 356 00:20:11,788 --> 00:20:13,341 Somebody to love them. 357 00:20:13,655 --> 00:20:15,522 Be a part of his world. 358 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,832 Rich. Educated. 359 00:20:18,832 --> 00:20:20,140 White. 360 00:20:21,427 --> 00:20:24,911 - What did he do? - He didn't do anything, ma'am. 361 00:20:24,911 --> 00:20:26,663 Then why you want to talk to him? 362 00:20:26,663 --> 00:20:28,868 Have you ever heard your son play piano? 363 00:20:28,868 --> 00:20:32,001 - Sure, you know. - He's real good. 364 00:20:32,001 --> 00:20:34,595 Yeah. So? 365 00:20:34,858 --> 00:20:38,164 That's what we want to talk to him about. 366 00:20:39,169 --> 00:20:40,665 If you're from that fancy school, 367 00:20:40,665 --> 00:20:44,384 you better talk to him about who's going to pay for this. 368 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:48,916 How did the audition go? 369 00:20:50,735 --> 00:20:53,049 Can you tell us who these other kids are in the photos? 370 00:20:53,049 --> 00:20:54,867 Yeah. Oh, my mom. 371 00:20:54,867 --> 00:20:57,506 - Yeah, families. - Yeah. 372 00:20:59,541 --> 00:21:01,861 You know, not nice like Larry's place, eh? 373 00:21:01,861 --> 00:21:03,293 Never been there. 374 00:21:03,293 --> 00:21:05,322 Yeah, but the cabinet doors close. 375 00:21:05,322 --> 00:21:07,405 And there's a piano at the middle school, 376 00:21:07,405 --> 00:21:09,631 and it's missing a "D" flat. 377 00:21:09,631 --> 00:21:12,676 - And it's always out of tune. - Holt's got a nice piano. 378 00:21:12,676 --> 00:21:15,354 I guess there's a price to pay for everything, huh? 379 00:21:15,354 --> 00:21:16,721 For him, too. 380 00:21:16,721 --> 00:21:19,389 That's why we need you to tell us who these kids are. 381 00:21:19,389 --> 00:21:20,992 Holt's my teacher, 382 00:21:20,992 --> 00:21:24,132 and he cares about me a lot. 383 00:21:24,132 --> 00:21:25,738 He even bought me a coat one year. 384 00:21:25,738 --> 00:21:28,690 I know it's hard, but it's okay. 385 00:21:28,690 --> 00:21:29,875 No, it's not. 386 00:21:29,875 --> 00:21:32,821 If you don't help us, Holt goes right back to giving those lessons. 387 00:21:32,821 --> 00:21:34,720 Holt always said I wasn't ready to leave. 388 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,269 I mean, I'm no Rey Guzimano. I still live here. 389 00:21:38,269 --> 00:21:42,051 You know how old he was when he came out with his first CD? 390 00:21:42,051 --> 00:21:43,193 17. 391 00:21:43,193 --> 00:21:45,420 - So what? - You know how old I am? 392 00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:49,158 - Almost 21. - Some prodigy. 393 00:21:49,158 --> 00:21:52,579 Julliard took in a 41-year-old flute player last fall. 394 00:21:52,579 --> 00:21:54,731 Guy was a monk. 395 00:21:55,374 --> 00:21:57,300 It's not too late. 396 00:21:58,260 --> 00:22:00,015 It's not? 397 00:22:03,715 --> 00:22:05,101 That's Caesar. 398 00:22:05,101 --> 00:22:07,515 Know where he is? Jail. 399 00:22:07,515 --> 00:22:08,888 His gun accidentally went off 400 00:22:08,888 --> 00:22:12,485 when a dry cleaner was opening up his cash register. 401 00:22:12,485 --> 00:22:13,895 That's Ricky. He's a junkie. 402 00:22:13,895 --> 00:22:18,519 And that's Tony. Know where he is? 403 00:22:19,739 --> 00:22:21,398 Nobody does. 404 00:22:21,398 --> 00:22:22,635 And me... 405 00:22:23,409 --> 00:22:25,755 you know, I still live here. 406 00:22:25,755 --> 00:22:27,778 But that's "okay." 407 00:22:28,658 --> 00:22:31,541 - Holt didn't have a computer. - No evidence anyone helped him? 408 00:22:31,541 --> 00:22:33,657 No set schedule, no daytimer. 409 00:22:33,657 --> 00:22:36,739 - The tapes have dates on them. - Starting dates of the lessons. 410 00:22:36,739 --> 00:22:39,186 And his current students in the neighborhood? 411 00:22:39,186 --> 00:22:42,227 - Nobody's talking. - This case is being fast-tracked. 412 00:22:42,227 --> 00:22:44,935 And we've indicted Holt separately for abuse against Evan. 413 00:22:44,935 --> 00:22:46,661 - How many counts? - Just two. 414 00:22:46,661 --> 00:22:49,395 What? / We can only go back five years. 415 00:22:49,395 --> 00:22:51,413 Wait a minute, that law changed in '96. 416 00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:53,911 Child abuse can be prosecuted up to five years 417 00:22:53,911 --> 00:22:55,606 after the child's 18th birthday. 418 00:22:55,606 --> 00:22:57,326 That's still a lot more than two counts. 419 00:22:57,326 --> 00:23:01,101 But there's no grandfather clause for abuse before '96. 420 00:23:01,101 --> 00:23:03,027 So everything that Holt did to Evan 421 00:23:03,027 --> 00:23:05,317 up until the time he was 16, inadmissible. 422 00:23:05,317 --> 00:23:08,377 - Anything over 17...? - Is consensual. 423 00:23:08,377 --> 00:23:11,769 Please, huh? / And that's only one year of what happened to him. 424 00:23:11,769 --> 00:23:14,437 - Right now, that's all we have. - We may not even have that. 425 00:23:14,437 --> 00:23:17,541 So our star witness may not even testify? 426 00:23:17,790 --> 00:23:19,685 He's afraid of betraying Holt. 427 00:23:19,685 --> 00:23:21,667 He's worried that people are going to hate him. 428 00:23:21,667 --> 00:23:24,341 So we'll talk to the kids that Evan knows. 429 00:23:24,341 --> 00:23:27,115 Caesar, the lifer; Ricky, the junkie. 430 00:23:28,302 --> 00:23:29,886 Oh boy. 431 00:23:31,305 --> 00:23:33,278 Nah, nothing ever happened. 432 00:23:33,278 --> 00:23:35,929 He never touched you? / No. 433 00:23:37,098 --> 00:23:39,604 Why did you stop playing piano? 434 00:23:39,604 --> 00:23:43,620 I didn't have the technique, or discipline. 435 00:23:45,076 --> 00:23:46,701 Man, it's cold. 436 00:23:46,701 --> 00:23:48,722 Why don't you come back to the station with me? 437 00:23:48,722 --> 00:23:50,699 Get warm. We can talk there. 438 00:23:50,699 --> 00:23:52,430 Holt's place was warm. 439 00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:55,619 Door was always open, never locked. 440 00:23:55,619 --> 00:23:57,014 Never? 441 00:23:57,646 --> 00:24:00,209 If it was, you come back. 442 00:24:00,209 --> 00:24:03,299 Go inside. Get warm. 443 00:24:03,299 --> 00:24:06,745 Eat a meal... sugar cookie. 444 00:24:07,658 --> 00:24:10,056 I miss that part. 445 00:24:14,546 --> 00:24:16,639 Residence Of Rey Guzimano 85 Washington Park, Brooklyn Monday, February 7 446 00:24:16,639 --> 00:24:19,395 - You're his most successful student. - I owe him a lot. 447 00:24:19,395 --> 00:24:21,390 And you owe it to the community to testify. 448 00:24:21,390 --> 00:24:24,201 - I don't owe that community anything. - You're still a part of it. 449 00:24:24,201 --> 00:24:26,152 I just go there to see my mom. 450 00:24:26,152 --> 00:24:28,430 Holt got away with this for almost 20 years. 451 00:24:28,430 --> 00:24:31,451 Holt was the only person that ever told me I could do something. 452 00:24:31,451 --> 00:24:34,452 - You know what that's like? - Yeah. Yeah, I do. 453 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,086 You know there's only like three ways to get out of there. 454 00:24:38,086 --> 00:24:40,073 Either you're smart enough to figure it out, 455 00:24:40,073 --> 00:24:42,509 you get out on your own, which isn't me, 456 00:24:42,509 --> 00:24:44,224 or you die there. 457 00:24:44,224 --> 00:24:50,761 Or you can do something, you know, handle a ball, play the piano. 458 00:24:50,761 --> 00:24:53,591 No one's going to take that away from me. 459 00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:58,730 - Why won't you talk to me? - Because he's my father. 460 00:25:11,154 --> 00:25:12,544 You still here? 461 00:25:13,213 --> 00:25:14,397 Yeah. 462 00:25:14,927 --> 00:25:16,780 Can you sleep? 463 00:25:17,116 --> 00:25:19,433 I close my eyes, I see those tapes. 464 00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:20,654 Every frame. 465 00:25:20,654 --> 00:25:21,893 Go home, John. 466 00:25:21,893 --> 00:25:25,711 Yeah, back to dead people... Homicide. 467 00:25:25,711 --> 00:25:28,174 It's much more clear cut, simple. 468 00:25:28,174 --> 00:25:32,296 Back to photographs. Bodies bent, broken. 469 00:25:32,296 --> 00:25:34,283 Bodies that don't talk back to you. 470 00:25:34,283 --> 00:25:37,504 - Look at you. - You don't get attached. 471 00:25:37,504 --> 00:25:38,994 Exactly. 472 00:25:38,994 --> 00:25:41,984 Of course, you retired in Baltimore, 473 00:25:41,984 --> 00:25:44,302 a few months later, found yourself here... 474 00:25:44,302 --> 00:25:46,496 another squad room, another case. 475 00:25:46,496 --> 00:25:48,794 This time I'll do a better job of quitting. 476 00:25:48,794 --> 00:25:51,142 Yeah, running's good. 477 00:25:54,347 --> 00:25:56,405 I don't need this. 478 00:25:56,405 --> 00:26:00,199 Go home, John. Take care of yourself. 479 00:26:04,270 --> 00:26:07,103 I got two more tapes to watch. 480 00:26:07,103 --> 00:26:09,300 "With a wink of his eye, and a twist of his head... 481 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,943 Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread... 482 00:26:11,943 --> 00:26:14,583 He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, 483 00:26:14,583 --> 00:26:16,243 and filled all the stockings..." 484 00:26:16,243 --> 00:26:18,107 Are our stockings going to be filled tonight? 485 00:26:18,107 --> 00:26:20,748 I'm only going to tell you one more time. 486 00:26:20,748 --> 00:26:24,105 Christmas comes once a year, it is now February. 487 00:26:24,105 --> 00:26:26,622 - Give me the phone, honey. - By why, Daddy, why? 488 00:26:26,622 --> 00:26:29,567 Yeah, why can't Christmas come all the time? 489 00:26:29,567 --> 00:26:33,279 Because Santa's credit cards are all maxed out. 490 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:34,538 That's why. 491 00:26:35,462 --> 00:26:36,945 Stabler. 492 00:26:37,259 --> 00:26:39,072 Hey, Evan, how you doing? 493 00:26:39,072 --> 00:26:41,682 - Evan? - Shh. What? 494 00:26:42,448 --> 00:26:44,542 Okay. I'll tell you what, you just stay there. 495 00:26:44,542 --> 00:26:47,552 No, stay there and... 496 00:26:47,552 --> 00:26:50,005 I'll be there as soon as I can. 497 00:26:50,005 --> 00:26:51,072 Okay. 498 00:26:51,991 --> 00:26:54,944 Pauly's Diner 185 East 112th Street Monday, February 7 499 00:26:54,944 --> 00:26:56,337 My mom threw me out. 500 00:26:56,337 --> 00:26:59,747 She said she didn't want some faggot living at her place. 501 00:26:59,747 --> 00:27:02,988 - I didn't know who else to call. - That's okay. 502 00:27:02,988 --> 00:27:06,962 I hate that everything's always okay, you know? 503 00:27:08,864 --> 00:27:10,941 I know some places that give emergency housing. 504 00:27:10,941 --> 00:27:13,996 They can help you get on your feet. 505 00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:16,696 How's the job? 506 00:27:16,696 --> 00:27:19,430 The hot water cracks my skin. 507 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:21,638 Hurt my hands. 508 00:27:21,638 --> 00:27:23,306 So you've quit the dishwashing business? 509 00:27:23,306 --> 00:27:25,201 No. I got fired. 510 00:27:31,965 --> 00:27:34,604 I think I want to testify. 511 00:27:35,461 --> 00:27:38,393 That's good. Real good. 512 00:27:41,972 --> 00:27:43,942 You think I'm gay? 513 00:27:44,867 --> 00:27:48,719 I don't know. It's not for me to say. 514 00:27:48,719 --> 00:27:51,943 I mean, I've never ever had a girlfriend or anything. 515 00:27:51,943 --> 00:27:53,662 Maybe you don't know yet, 516 00:27:53,662 --> 00:27:56,379 it's not something you choose. 517 00:27:56,379 --> 00:28:01,465 Besides, there's a big difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. 518 00:28:01,823 --> 00:28:03,703 Which is what? 519 00:28:03,703 --> 00:28:08,087 Which is... homosexuality is none of my business. 520 00:28:08,087 --> 00:28:09,711 What was done to you... 521 00:28:09,711 --> 00:28:11,533 I was forced... 522 00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:13,213 that's what you're trying to say? 523 00:28:13,213 --> 00:28:14,544 Yeah... 524 00:28:14,544 --> 00:28:16,590 only... 525 00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:22,642 why didn't you stop taking those lessons? 526 00:28:24,771 --> 00:28:27,178 I thought... 527 00:28:28,660 --> 00:28:31,961 I didn't think I had any choice. 528 00:28:36,272 --> 00:28:40,428 Well, whatever person you choose... 529 00:28:40,871 --> 00:28:42,387 should be your choice. 530 00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:46,249 And my guess is, when you're ready to see someone that way... 531 00:28:46,249 --> 00:28:48,374 you will. 532 00:28:49,048 --> 00:28:52,715 It'll mean something to you, and it'll come from you. 533 00:28:52,715 --> 00:28:55,270 And it won't be about what was done to you. 534 00:28:55,270 --> 00:28:57,718 And it won't be my fault? 535 00:28:59,282 --> 00:29:01,131 Fault? 536 00:29:01,131 --> 00:29:04,199 It's supposed to be about love. 537 00:29:19,136 --> 00:29:22,668 Elliot, you all right? 538 00:29:22,668 --> 00:29:24,333 Yeah. 539 00:29:28,284 --> 00:29:29,925 How's it going? 540 00:29:34,469 --> 00:29:35,966 Going. 541 00:29:39,358 --> 00:29:41,838 What's going on at work? 542 00:29:43,802 --> 00:29:46,205 Nothing. 543 00:29:48,476 --> 00:29:51,909 You talk to Olivia about it? 544 00:29:54,825 --> 00:29:57,767 She's my partner. 545 00:30:05,874 --> 00:30:08,465 How can we make Evan feel comfortable? 546 00:30:08,465 --> 00:30:11,805 We just spent two hours rehearsing his testimony. / How'd that go? 547 00:30:11,805 --> 00:30:14,127 You know the way he answers questions, 548 00:30:14,127 --> 00:30:16,087 almost as if he wanted to say the right answer, 549 00:30:16,087 --> 00:30:18,921 if there were a right answer, just like a kid. 550 00:30:18,921 --> 00:30:21,500 He is, emotionally, sexually. 551 00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,270 This kid shut down at eight years of age. 552 00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:26,353 When I do have kids on the stand, 553 00:30:26,353 --> 00:30:28,845 I do like to do a courtroom prep. 554 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,640 Cool. 555 00:30:31,017 --> 00:30:33,546 Okay. Okay. That's enough, "Wapner." 556 00:30:33,546 --> 00:30:35,472 Last, and most important. 557 00:30:35,472 --> 00:30:37,186 Where you will sit. 558 00:30:37,643 --> 00:30:39,322 I don't get to come here at all? 559 00:30:39,322 --> 00:30:40,955 'Cause you're a witness, 560 00:30:40,955 --> 00:30:43,859 you might get contaminated by watching the whole trial. 561 00:30:43,859 --> 00:30:45,210 Contaminated? 562 00:30:45,210 --> 00:30:48,993 Trust me, you got a lot better things to do than hang out here all day. 563 00:30:48,993 --> 00:30:50,775 Now, when you're up here, 564 00:30:50,775 --> 00:30:54,308 I want you to answer the questions, just like we practiced. 565 00:30:54,308 --> 00:30:56,515 And when you answer, I want you to speak loudly, 566 00:30:56,515 --> 00:30:59,537 and look at me, and only at me. 567 00:30:59,790 --> 00:31:02,044 What about when his lawyer asks me questions? 568 00:31:02,044 --> 00:31:03,703 You just answer the questions. 569 00:31:03,703 --> 00:31:05,819 Everything else, ignore. 570 00:31:07,091 --> 00:31:09,516 Just hear music. 571 00:31:14,145 --> 00:31:15,097 Hey, John. 572 00:31:20,419 --> 00:31:23,067 You think it's a conscious choice? 573 00:31:23,067 --> 00:31:24,236 What, Holt? 574 00:31:24,236 --> 00:31:26,395 - What are you talking about? - Yeah, Holt. 575 00:31:26,395 --> 00:31:29,728 - What makes a perp a perp? - Who cares? 576 00:31:30,326 --> 00:31:34,076 Some people say the frontal lobe is our body's armor against impulses. 577 00:31:34,076 --> 00:31:36,580 Okay, Holt has a bad lobe. 578 00:31:36,580 --> 00:31:37,857 You think he was abused? 579 00:31:37,857 --> 00:31:39,754 You know, John, I really don't care. 580 00:31:39,754 --> 00:31:42,562 It's just another excuse as far as I'm concerned. 581 00:31:42,562 --> 00:31:44,426 This guy hurt a lot of kids. 582 00:31:44,426 --> 00:31:46,904 That's what I care about. 583 00:31:50,676 --> 00:31:52,981 What's going on with you? 584 00:32:00,531 --> 00:32:02,704 I got something to show you. 585 00:32:03,163 --> 00:32:05,137 That's good. That's real good. 586 00:32:06,004 --> 00:32:08,382 Keep your wrists up, okay? 587 00:32:11,047 --> 00:32:15,281 No, no. Evan, he's having trouble with the music. 588 00:32:18,558 --> 00:32:20,803 He doesn't feel it. 589 00:32:21,882 --> 00:32:24,756 He's ready to start learning. 590 00:32:24,756 --> 00:32:26,378 He's ready. 591 00:32:34,202 --> 00:32:36,405 Can you show him? 592 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:49,206 - What are you doing? - Just keep playing. 593 00:33:07,967 --> 00:33:10,303 Hasn't this kid been through enough already? 594 00:33:10,303 --> 00:33:11,761 How can you say that? 595 00:33:11,761 --> 00:33:15,145 You, who when we watched those tapes were ready to throttle the guy. 596 00:33:15,145 --> 00:33:16,724 And you were the one who was telling Evan 597 00:33:16,724 --> 00:33:18,396 that everything was going to be okay. 598 00:33:18,396 --> 00:33:22,139 It is okay, if he's the victim, not the abuser. 599 00:33:22,139 --> 00:33:24,505 - He's both. - Who's next? 600 00:33:24,505 --> 00:33:27,290 Evan hurts another kid, we are responsible. 601 00:33:27,290 --> 00:33:30,322 Give it a few years, we'll have another Holt on our hands. 602 00:33:32,429 --> 00:33:37,014 The same laws that bind Holt, bind Evan too. 603 00:33:37,278 --> 00:33:39,623 Mark, it's Don Cragen. 604 00:33:39,623 --> 00:33:42,565 I think you better get down right away. 605 00:33:43,959 --> 00:33:48,379 Larry said that Jonathan didn't feel the music. 606 00:33:48,582 --> 00:33:50,448 He said, "How can you play a piece about longing, 607 00:33:50,448 --> 00:33:53,272 when you haven't felt that? 608 00:33:53,272 --> 00:33:58,525 Jonathan was playing "The Entertainer." 609 00:33:58,769 --> 00:34:01,781 It's the way I learned how to play. 610 00:34:02,619 --> 00:34:06,528 What are you going to do with your talent now? 611 00:34:07,064 --> 00:34:08,478 Look at me. 612 00:34:08,764 --> 00:34:10,271 Look at me. 613 00:34:13,213 --> 00:34:15,948 How many times did this happen? 614 00:34:15,948 --> 00:34:17,406 Once. That's it. 615 00:34:17,406 --> 00:34:18,989 Don't lie to me. 616 00:34:18,989 --> 00:34:22,825 That was the only time. 617 00:34:23,770 --> 00:34:28,594 - You committed a crime. - And deserve to be punished. 618 00:34:29,064 --> 00:34:32,215 You still want to testify tomorrow? 619 00:34:36,236 --> 00:34:39,847 You're going to be arraigned this afternoon. 620 00:34:39,847 --> 00:34:42,582 Am I going to jail? 621 00:34:43,281 --> 00:34:46,201 We probably could make a deal. 622 00:34:51,325 --> 00:34:53,088 What...? 623 00:34:53,291 --> 00:34:55,621 You don't think it's fair we give this kid a deal? 624 00:34:55,621 --> 00:34:56,882 Fair? 625 00:34:57,576 --> 00:34:59,547 I don't know what I know anymore, you know? 626 00:34:59,547 --> 00:35:02,790 Yeah, I mean we're stuck right in the middle of this thing. 627 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:05,973 We watch that boy on tape, a victim being subjected 628 00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:08,001 to thing that no child should ever have to suffer. 629 00:35:08,001 --> 00:35:10,914 Who are you talking about, Jonathan or Evan? 630 00:35:10,914 --> 00:35:13,438 All right, point taken. But I was talking about Evan. 631 00:35:13,438 --> 00:35:15,517 He was abused, and then he turns around and does it. 632 00:35:15,517 --> 00:35:16,838 An excuse. 633 00:35:16,838 --> 00:35:19,121 You think that's all it is, an excuse? 634 00:35:19,121 --> 00:35:23,955 I think, it relieves him of an awful lot of responsibility. 635 00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:25,951 The idea that abuse 636 00:35:25,951 --> 00:35:27,333 begets abuse, begets abuse, 637 00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:30,652 is a rationalization that's been used by countless defense lawyers. 638 00:35:30,652 --> 00:35:34,405 But in this case, it also happens to be true. 639 00:35:34,951 --> 00:35:36,564 He had a choice. 640 00:35:36,564 --> 00:35:38,561 Yes. Evan, the adult, had a choice. 641 00:35:38,561 --> 00:35:40,594 - And he committed a crime. - And we're cops. 642 00:35:40,594 --> 00:35:42,463 And we'll deal with that. 643 00:35:42,463 --> 00:35:44,808 But you see, what's eating you, 644 00:35:44,808 --> 00:35:47,097 is Evan the little boy. 645 00:35:47,097 --> 00:35:49,381 The boy on the tape. 646 00:35:49,381 --> 00:35:52,233 What choice did he have? 647 00:36:03,234 --> 00:36:04,867 Bail is set at 25,000. 648 00:36:04,867 --> 00:36:07,085 - Your Honor... - I think that's more than fair. 649 00:36:07,085 --> 00:36:10,254 It is fair, and we appreciate the court's generosity. 650 00:36:10,254 --> 00:36:13,440 But, may we approach the bench? 651 00:36:18,194 --> 00:36:20,320 Your Honor, my client can't make that. 652 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,537 So he spends the night in jail like anyone else. 653 00:36:22,537 --> 00:36:26,644 Your Honor, the People are right now in the middle of trying Larry Holt, 654 00:36:26,644 --> 00:36:29,107 Evan is our key witness. 655 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,070 - When is he testifying? - Tomorrow. 656 00:36:32,070 --> 00:36:37,174 Stress of spending the night in jail will probably affect his testimony. 657 00:36:37,174 --> 00:36:39,221 All right, then. Until his testimony is completed, 658 00:36:39,221 --> 00:36:42,469 I'll release Evan into the custody of the People. 659 00:36:42,754 --> 00:36:46,564 Starland Hotel 346 West 38th Street Wednesday, February 9 660 00:36:53,525 --> 00:36:55,770 You hate me, don't you? 661 00:36:56,806 --> 00:36:58,498 I don't hate you. 662 00:37:04,945 --> 00:37:08,813 Well, what you said in the diner that night... / Yeah, that was before. 663 00:37:10,505 --> 00:37:14,060 Look, what happened to you is terrible. 664 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:20,467 I look at you and I try seeing that little child being abused. 665 00:37:20,467 --> 00:37:21,986 Only... 666 00:37:22,885 --> 00:37:25,224 Only now you see an abuser. 667 00:37:25,224 --> 00:37:28,216 Yeah. Yeah, I do. 668 00:37:28,216 --> 00:37:32,184 I see a guy that... if you ever came near my child... 669 00:37:43,958 --> 00:37:45,896 My kid must have put that in there. 670 00:37:45,896 --> 00:37:49,817 He's determined to make Christmas come every night. 671 00:37:58,670 --> 00:38:01,193 "Twas the night before Christmas 672 00:38:01,193 --> 00:38:04,305 And all through the house Not a creature was stirring, 673 00:38:04,305 --> 00:38:06,641 Not even a mouse." 674 00:38:07,535 --> 00:38:09,513 Don't. 675 00:38:18,333 --> 00:38:19,651 When I would play, 676 00:38:19,651 --> 00:38:21,656 he would sit next to me on the bench. 677 00:38:21,656 --> 00:38:24,909 - Why? - Made it easy to turn the music. 678 00:38:24,909 --> 00:38:27,918 Did he ever touch you when he would sit next to you? 679 00:38:27,918 --> 00:38:29,121 Yes. 680 00:38:29,121 --> 00:38:33,735 He would keep his hand on my back for good posture. 681 00:38:33,735 --> 00:38:35,624 Evan... 682 00:38:36,022 --> 00:38:39,595 did he ever touch you anywhere else? 683 00:38:51,024 --> 00:38:52,650 Yes. 684 00:38:58,392 --> 00:39:01,312 Supreme Court Sentencing Hearing Friday, February 11 685 00:39:01,312 --> 00:39:03,607 During the trial I heard from the prosecution, 686 00:39:03,607 --> 00:39:07,533 I heard from the defense, but I did not hear from you, Mr. Holt. 687 00:39:07,533 --> 00:39:09,053 You want to say something now? 688 00:39:09,053 --> 00:39:10,953 No, Your Honor. 689 00:39:13,143 --> 00:39:16,963 I've read the pre-sentencing report. 690 00:39:16,963 --> 00:39:21,676 Nothing in it indicates you feel any remorse. 691 00:39:21,676 --> 00:39:25,103 Nothing indicates that I should be lenient. 692 00:39:25,103 --> 00:39:27,023 Mr. Holt... 693 00:39:27,023 --> 00:39:31,390 note by note, you eroded the hope 694 00:39:31,390 --> 00:39:34,157 of every child in your charge. 695 00:39:34,157 --> 00:39:35,738 You stole from them. 696 00:39:35,738 --> 00:39:38,139 You stole from this community. 697 00:39:38,952 --> 00:39:45,000 I sentence you to 115 years, the maximum the law allows. 698 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,478 Maybe knowing that you will never teach another child 699 00:39:47,478 --> 00:39:51,195 will fill some of us again with hope. 700 00:39:56,094 --> 00:39:58,680 Will he really be in jail that long? 701 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,262 He'll be eligible for parole in 38 years. 702 00:40:03,262 --> 00:40:05,940 - But he's almost 60. - Yeah. 703 00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:08,561 Isn't math wonderful? 704 00:40:19,477 --> 00:40:20,901 Absolutely not. 705 00:40:20,901 --> 00:40:23,518 We're trying to spare your son the ordeal of testifying at trial. 706 00:40:23,518 --> 00:40:26,528 Jonathan doesn't testify, that son of a bitch goes free. 707 00:40:26,528 --> 00:40:27,553 No, he won't be free. 708 00:40:27,553 --> 00:40:29,841 He's pleading guilty, he will be on probation. 709 00:40:29,841 --> 00:40:31,658 A heavily supervised probation. 710 00:40:31,658 --> 00:40:34,298 - My son is the victim here. - Sir, we know that. 711 00:40:34,298 --> 00:40:38,440 And we are not trying to excuse Evan, but this does go back to Holt. 712 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,079 You saw how fast that jury came back. 713 00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,280 And I want that other kid to go to trial. 714 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,502 I know you do. 715 00:40:44,856 --> 00:40:47,154 And I sympathize with you, believe me. 716 00:40:47,154 --> 00:40:49,811 Isn't the most important thing here 717 00:40:49,811 --> 00:40:52,626 that these men never be allowed to do anything like this again? 718 00:40:52,626 --> 00:40:56,002 That's not justice. It's special laws for special people. 719 00:40:56,002 --> 00:40:59,474 No, sir, not at all. It's almost a done deal. 720 00:40:59,474 --> 00:41:00,965 Then you undo it, 721 00:41:00,965 --> 00:41:03,479 because if you don't, I'm going to call every newspaper, 722 00:41:03,479 --> 00:41:06,612 every television station, every person that'll listen for two minutes, 723 00:41:06,612 --> 00:41:08,497 and tell them how certain child molesters are worth 724 00:41:08,497 --> 00:41:13,300 your time and energy and how certain other ones aren't. 725 00:41:17,014 --> 00:41:18,689 What's that? 726 00:41:18,965 --> 00:41:21,920 It's a letter from Julliard. 727 00:41:22,431 --> 00:41:24,434 Did you open it? 728 00:41:29,343 --> 00:41:31,249 Congratulations. 729 00:41:31,249 --> 00:41:33,219 Evan pleads guilty, we don't go to trial. 730 00:41:33,219 --> 00:41:35,426 Judge won't cut a deal. 731 00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:37,315 How long would I be in jail? 732 00:41:37,315 --> 00:41:39,770 The felony carries a one to three year sentence. 733 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:42,855 I think a judge will feel politically obligated to give you the maximum. 734 00:41:42,855 --> 00:41:45,687 We go to trial, we probably end up with probation, 735 00:41:45,687 --> 00:41:47,672 right where we started. 736 00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:50,760 - We withdraw our guilty plea. - Okay. 737 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,286 No, Jonathan can't go through that. 738 00:41:54,286 --> 00:41:57,272 But you'll be in jail for three years. 739 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,209 Look... 740 00:42:02,672 --> 00:42:06,755 I don't know what made Holt the way he is... 741 00:42:06,755 --> 00:42:12,862 but I do know why I am the way I am. 742 00:42:12,862 --> 00:42:14,934 And it stops here... 743 00:42:15,763 --> 00:42:18,002 now. 744 00:42:19,228 --> 00:42:21,856 번역수정 (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 745 00:42:21,856 --> 00:42:24,020 맞춤법교정 이재연(vostoc@nate.com) 746 00:42:24,343 --> 00:42:27,245 자막제작 - NSC 자막팀 (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 9999 00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00 www.tvsubtitles.net